Became a Citizen.....
#1
Became a Citizen.....
And will be voting in my first Federal Election
Just found out none of the parties have a published manifesto. All I have is soundbites on in the news to figure out who's not the biggest liar.
Do they not like putting anytrhing in writing in case we expect them to follow up on it?
Just found out none of the parties have a published manifesto. All I have is soundbites on in the news to figure out who's not the biggest liar.
Do they not like putting anytrhing in writing in case we expect them to follow up on it?
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Re: Became a Citizen.....
Congrats!
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Re: Became a Citizen.....
Congrats. I thought the parties put up their platform online?
I can't vote so don't pay super close attention but NDP is the only part that comes close to what lean towards.
Maybe they have no plan this election other then make Harper look bad.....
I can't vote so don't pay super close attention but NDP is the only part that comes close to what lean towards.
Maybe they have no plan this election other then make Harper look bad.....
#6
Re: Became a Citizen.....
I can't vote but I kinda like Mulcair's look somehow... don't think though that that is the basis for an educated decision though...
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Re: Became a Citizen.....
It's at least as good as any other method. Going by what they say they are going to do is probably more ridiculous.
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Re: Became a Citizen.....
I cannot vote but was looking forward to finding out where all the parties stood on the main issues. I have been surprised how hard it is to find out as there have, as yet, been no published "manifestos". The websites were not all that helpful. The conservative website just talked about trivial tangential issues, the NDP site mostly just slated the Conservatives and made wooly promises of how they would do it better. I was surprised that the liberal site was fairly informative, dealt with specific issues and was well constructed but seemed unfinished. This is not a plug for any party as I was just looking for information.
I heard yesterday that the Green Party have published their "platform" which I guess is their "Manifesto" i.e. a list of changes they would like to make with some suggestions of how they will be paid for. I guess the other parties will follow with their platforms at last. It seems a little late. I would have assumed the parties would have known their proposed policies. I am not sure how you can "campaign" without knowing what changes you propose to make.
Anyhow, lucky you being able to vote. Make the most of it.
I heard yesterday that the Green Party have published their "platform" which I guess is their "Manifesto" i.e. a list of changes they would like to make with some suggestions of how they will be paid for. I guess the other parties will follow with their platforms at last. It seems a little late. I would have assumed the parties would have known their proposed policies. I am not sure how you can "campaign" without knowing what changes you propose to make.
Anyhow, lucky you being able to vote. Make the most of it.
#9
Re: Became a Citizen.....
It's a bit early in the campaign to find the full manifesto to be available. The parties like to make their key pledges piecemeal, to maximise media coverage, and only release the full platform after that.
#10
Re: Became a Citizen.....
Justin has a baby face and Steven obviously is on his way out... Tom looks like the guy next door. Would be nice to hang out with him around a campfire... OK, so I will vote for him... (in my head anyway as I am not yet Canadian!).
#11
Re: Became a Citizen.....
Absolutely. Never trust what they say!
Justin has a baby face and Steven obviously is on his way out... Tom looks like the guy next door. Would be nice to hang out with him around a campfire... OK, so I will vote for him... (in my head anyway as I am not yet Canadian!).
Justin has a baby face and Steven obviously is on his way out... Tom looks like the guy next door. Would be nice to hang out with him around a campfire... OK, so I will vote for him... (in my head anyway as I am not yet Canadian!).
#12
Re: Became a Citizen.....
Maybe you should check the NDP's track record ! They have never formed a Federal government but when that political whore Bob Rae was Premier of Ontario it was a disaster. Rae Days, days when provincial civil servants didn't get paid. He earned the moniker "Buffalo's Business Man of The Year" because of all the businesses that left Ontario for Buffalo. Then we had an NDP government in Nova Scotia. Good old Uncle Darryl Dexter. Another disaster. Even his Finance Minister, Graham Steele quit ! I'll be glad to see the back of Harper but, sadly, the alternatives are not that desirable.
When I worked for the Chamber of Commerce in Yarmouth he attended a function we had going on. I kind of knew all the members but sometimes it took me a few minutes to put a name to a face...anyway, enter Mr Dexter and I'm about to apologize to him for not remembering his name and suddenly I remembered who he was! Phew!!!!!
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Re: Became a Citizen.....
Maybe you should check the NDP's track record ! They have never formed a Federal government but when that political whore Bob Rae was Premier of Ontario it was a disaster. Rae Days, days when provincial civil servants didn't get paid. He earned the moniker "Buffalo's Business Man of The Year" because of all the businesses that left Ontario for Buffalo. Then we had an NDP government in Nova Scotia. Good old Uncle Darryl Dexter. Another disaster. Even his Finance Minister, Graham Steele quit ! I'll be glad to see the back of Harper but, sadly, the alternatives are not that desirable.
#14
Re: Became a Citizen.....
Yeah the NDP here seem to be losing the plot very quickly.
Basically, all the civil servants in Edmonton voted for them because they don't want to get fired. So the NDP promised not to fire anyone and then found out the PCs had understated the financial problems and then on top of that the price of oil has plummeted.
So given that they won't cut anything and have already announced tax increases, I see only one thing happening - even more tax increases.
What they should do of course is come out and say they can't possibly implement their campaign promises (which hardly anyone was aware of anyway as it was a protest vote) because of the dire economic situation but they're too scared to do it.
Especially because Mulclair is hoping to win seats in Edmonton. October 20th I see bad news being announced in Alberta.
Basically, all the civil servants in Edmonton voted for them because they don't want to get fired. So the NDP promised not to fire anyone and then found out the PCs had understated the financial problems and then on top of that the price of oil has plummeted.
So given that they won't cut anything and have already announced tax increases, I see only one thing happening - even more tax increases.
What they should do of course is come out and say they can't possibly implement their campaign promises (which hardly anyone was aware of anyway as it was a protest vote) because of the dire economic situation but they're too scared to do it.
Especially because Mulclair is hoping to win seats in Edmonton. October 20th I see bad news being announced in Alberta.