Shenkor

Hi,

I recently received a conditional offer from CIC for IEC 2014. I have submitted all the necessary forms and i am waiting to hear the final outcome. Hope it will be a positive one!

I have been glued to this forum as my source for various questions and answers about various CIC forms, job-hunting in Canada and general advice. I am particularly keen extending my stay in Canada (if i get a positive decision on my IEC that is). I have been looking at the various threads about PNP, FSW. From reading the various posts i guess my best option looks to be PNP. So i have looked at the websites of the various provinces (Ontario, Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba and the Quebec version). Here’s where i began to loose the plot and loose hope.

 The BE PNP website says, i need to have a job amongst one of it’s criteria. Plus it could potentially take up to 9 months to process (according to some posts on this forum)
 The Ontario PNP- i need a job which pays $25 or more plus it looks rather complicated
 Manitoba –unless i can demonstrate some sort of existing relations/connections, i am screwed (i don’t know anyone in Manitoba)
 Alberta cannot get a straight forward answer
 The more straighter forward one looks to be the Quebec one, but that stream has reached maximum applications.

This may come across over simplistic question....but on my IEC CIC form i put Alberta as my main province to stay for the 12 month i am in Canada. Once i get there and find a job, can i just send my application and see what happens?

As i mentioned .in previous posting my background.... I have 7 years work experience in Human Resources officer/administrator and have been working as Human Resources Information System specialist for the past 4 years.

What exactly is needed for PNP application? I accept each province may have their own requirements but i got rather bewildered reading the various posts. Do i apply once i get a job or will my employer be the one’s applying? What will be the appropriate time to start the application?

I will be extremely grateful if someone can point me in the right direction towards a post either on this forum or just make an idiot proof summary of how the PNP process works for someone with IEC visa.

Another advice clarification i am seeking- Will it affect my IEC application if i apply for skilled worker PNP nomination in Quebec or another province for example?

Hasan78

hi
Regarding PNP, from my reading once you find a job and if your employer happy to do so then the employer apply for pre-screening approval- it is free for employer. Once your employer get the approval then you need to apply to provisional nomination to get approval.- there is a limit of up to 60 or 90 days to apply. upon your success then you apply to CIC for PR. This is my understanding upon looking at it for the past few months!
another thing which I found for Ontario PNP, employer gross income apparently should be >= $500,000 as it is claimed with my current employer whom i found - not started actual job yet! so no luck for me to get PR via PNP!

Good luck!

Shenkor

Thank you very much Hasan78. Hope your luck turns for the better

christmasoompa

The trouble is, that there's isn't a guide to the PNP, because every single province has different processing requirements (or even each stream does). For example, Hasan78 has mentioned above about employer 'pre-screening', but that's not relevant to all streams/provinces so may not be applicable to you.

Really, all you can do is read each province's website and then understand the requirements from there. There is no 'one size fits all' guide for PNP as they're all so massively different. Ditto for timeframes, which you've asked about - some provinces take 8 weeks to get nomination, some (i.e. BC which you've mentioned) take 9 months.

Alberta you say you 'can't get a straight answer', I don't really understand what you mean by that? As their website is fairly clear and the eligibility requirements are laid out for you.

Which province do you actually want to go to?

Tirytory

You're a doctor right? Isn't your best route job offer, twp, apply for PR? Seems to be the most commonly taken route for GP's?

Hasan78

Yes Tirytory! I am just learning about different routes so know my options as my TWP is delayed by employer so possibly am getting LMIA by end of Dec/early Jan

Shenkor

christmasoompa - you are a God send!! thank you so much.

Thanks for clarifying there's no one size fits all regarding the PNP nomination process and time scale. Regarding the Alberta process, all that i have read refers to employer led PNP. There's no (i have not seen) explanation how an individual can apply for PNP. May be Alberta doesn't do independent PNP

In regards to which province do i want to go to?- I've only been to Toronto once, it really doesn't matter to me that much, i can go to anyone of these 4 (Ontario- Toronto, Ottawa, Alberta- Calgary, BC- Vancouver, Manitoba- Winnipeg). I would consider Quebec -Montreal but i will have to learn French rather quickly i believe.

This may sound overly simple but i want to go to a province where i can get the best opportunity to extend my visa to obtain a PR. This is my only opportunity for IEC. By the time the next IEC comes i will be 31 and out of contention.

Settling in a new location is not a big deal for me. When i went to study in Wales i knew nobody but i have settled in well, made lots of mates, completed my studies and have integrated to an extent that everyone that i meet assumes i am Welsh .

Career wise i don't mind taking a temporary step back to take a step forward. I am looking at HR jobs and HR information system... what the adverts are asking for, the persons specification. Hopefully i will my adapted resume will grab attention of a recruiter. I guess every organisation needs some type of Human Resources specialist in their organisation right? My qualification background is not unique and not in great shortage i presume?

The bottom line is, I am looking for an opportunity to kick-on and have a better way of life (work, life balance) and move away from the expensive rat race that is Manchester/London. I don't want to come for 12 months and not try to be there for as long as possible.

From your in-country knowledge where would the most optimal place for job opportunities?

Thank you so much once again.

bc2015

It does but only for certain occupations

Strategic Recruitment Stream | Alberta Canada - Alberta, Canada

BC also requires a job offer.

One thing to note about the Alberta PNP (or AINP as it is called) is that the processing times are rather long (currently 25 months for skilled worker)

http://www.albertacanada.com/opportu...ing-times.aspx

and that you have to have a valid work permit for the entire time of your application

Shenkor

I can't thank you enough for your kind support, talking me through this and taking the time out to send me links.
I'll only have 12 months or less so i should best concentrate on going to Winnipeg-Manitoba. I can hopefully establish connection by securing work out there and it seems the more optimal province for PNP process.

The other provinces seem to require a lot of time (which i don't have) for the PNP.

Thanks a million once again.