Moses2013

Sounds like you are depressed and If you were from Canada, you'd probably say the same about Canada. Life in Canada won't be easier for you, but the good thing is that you are only 21. Finish your GCSE's in the UK and then you'll have a future, so it's really up to you

mikelincs

I do wish people who make disparaging remarks about pensioners would remember, that they will be pensioners one day, and that their parents will be pensioners well before that.

Dorothy

When might that have been, then? Some time between December when you said you never leave your house and now?

caretaker

Lol she's right, you aren't quite a refugee yet. The suggestions about getting trained in some occupation in England first are all good as well. Finding something you have an affinity for and wouldn't mind working at in the long term is the difficult bit. I think the more skilled the trade is, the greater the demand so the more time you invest in training the better your job prospects will be. Itinerant painters are a dime a dozen but good millwrights or good heavy-duty mechanics are in demand in factories or mines or refineries all over the world. Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

christmasoompa

I live in the UK, and I think your statements above sweeping generalisations. They might apply to where you live, but they sure as hell don't apply to where I am.

I'm sitting at my desk looking out over open countryside - funnily enough, it's green not grey and hasn't been 'submerged in bricks and concrete'.

If you live surrounded by chavs and concrete, then you must live in an urban area, so there's a very simple solution which is to move. And you don't have to spend a fortune on moving abroad, you can just move to a more rural area of the UK.

But I agree with the others that you need to deal with your depression first and foremost. You could get a visa for Canada very easily (IEC), but until you've dealt with your personal issues there's very little point.

Getting some further education such as a degree or an apprenticeship is a great idea, and will give you far more opportunities wherever you go, so if you've dealt with your mother issues mentioned in other threads and she'll now allow you to do something with your life, then go for it. Just don't look at is as a way to escape the UK, but maybe focus on bettering your prospects, and then you can see where in the world it takes you - it's just possible that it'll take you elsewhere in the UK where you'll be very happy.

Good luck.

Pollyana

Have you followed ANY of the advice given to you in your three previous threads?

MillieF

I am looking out of my office window, and it is very grey, it has been grey since October I think, and it's 3 degrees right now, and tonight we have snow flurries.

I am by no means in my first flush of youth, but regularly feel like a spring chicken, as I am surrounded by people who are well into their later years. I've never understood this 'Chav' word, but I suspect we have a fair few of whatever they are too.

You don't dump all the problems you have in one place, only to find Neverland in another, the troubles that you had in one country tend to follow you to another.

Tirytory

I hate the word...it's just a way of discriminating against lower social strata.

I've now read your previous posts...they make for interesting reading. Perhaps in four months you have made some headway regarding GCSE's? I have to admit that your use of English Language with the odd "mistake" thrown in does put me in mind of bridges and goats...

Rubeus Hagrid

Okay, there's a lot of points to address, so I'll address them one at a time.

1) The word "chav" is certainly not a prejudiced word for the lower class. A lower class, by the way, that I would technically come under. It instead refers to superficial people with little intelligence, and very little regard for anything except things of a superficial nature. Britain is SOACKED in chavs.

2) I don't understan what you mean by "use of the English language"?

3) Im deriving from this thread a message that says: Do what you want and what makes you happy, then worry about moving. This is some good advice, however I would need to consult another forum about this topic because my last threads were closed when they went off-topic. I would, however, really, really like to get into farming - something that would get me closer to a rural way of life? Away from the urban areas?

4) It's almost as though the migrants on this forum somehow regret migrating? Explain please?

Piff Poff

I was going to suggest mechanicking too. Good ones are hard to come by and are always in demand - wherever you are.

Piff Poff

Maybe because some of us realise, it's the same shit in a slightly shinier buckets that dulls rapidly over time - and we could have found that particular bucket elsewhere in the UK, without the cost and heartbreak of the emigration roller coaster. If you want to get into farming, then surely you should work to getting accepted into a Agricultural college of some description?

Sally Redux

You will be happier if you don't judge so much, but think about what actually affects your life.

Aviator

There are a number of journeyman certificates in agriculture and horticulture. Most are provincial only and not inter provincial Red Seal.

Descriptions of what this is all about is available online using Google.
Trade Programs | Industry Training Authority

Immigrant farm workers are not in as much demand these days and it does not pay well, often not much above min wage. To get into farming and have a chance of immigrating and getting something of a decent wage, a college diploma or degree are going to be your best bet.

If you like the idea of going farming, go farming, forget immigrating and if it leads to that down the road, good for you.

When farming, grey concrete building are fewer, lots of shit and green fields, few 'chavs' to be seen, there are however still lots of old people, they are usually the ones paying the wages.

Rubeus Hagrid

I often fear that there no distinction, but thanks.

I do want to get into farming, yes. I wonder if I could possibly be accepted into some kind of apprenticeship for that kind of work? But if it pays minimum wage, and I won't find anyone my own age.. That doesn't seem great does it?

This is what I mean! There's so much more opportunity abroad. England is going down the gutter quick.

Back to Canada... Someone asked me where I went to in Canada. I went to Alberta. What I found was that the buildings were much bigger, that there was much more diversity as far as people and different places were concerned. Just walking down the "sidewalks" inspired me. Seeing the beautiful natural geography that we simply don't have over here.. We only have terraced houses and superficial people, all of whom are mostly the same.

Tirytory

That's right the UK has no farmland and from coast to coast is covered in terraced houses and oh my god the people...

Stereotype much? A criticism laid at Canada's door is that the people are superficial but of course that's not true, in much the same way that it isn't true for the UK. For someone who doesn't get out much and has no friends you seem to have a lot of bright shiny opinions- what are they based on?