The world of automation
#1111
Re: The world of automation
A different animal than a McCLaren or Bugatti, I suppose, but in terms of acceleration, pretty incredible. It must be disconcerting to accelerate at that rate, especially if it's noiseless. Maybe Elon with have to install an artificial exhaust replicator to give motorheads the full experience!
The P90D with Ludicrous has been pissing off muscle car types at drag strips - a family sedan leaving their throaty beasts in the dust. I get the feeling that exhaust roar is going to sound old hat in 5 years - it'll be like vinyl bores in an age of streaming.
#1112
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The animated GIF on the previous page gives an idea what that kind of launch looks like. Reminds me of the launch of fighters on Battlestar Galactica.
The P90D with Ludicrous has been pissing off muscle car types at drag strips - a family sedan leaving their throaty beasts in the dust. I get the feeling that exhaust roar is going to sound old hat in 5 years - it'll be like vinyl bores in an age of streaming.
The P90D with Ludicrous has been pissing off muscle car types at drag strips - a family sedan leaving their throaty beasts in the dust. I get the feeling that exhaust roar is going to sound old hat in 5 years - it'll be like vinyl bores in an age of streaming.
I don't think the appeal of exhaust roar will fade any time soon. Still plenty of car shows racing vintage vehicles and bikes. But on the whole cars will become an enthusiast domain, and there the parallel to vinyl might be apt.
Here's a good piece on the future of cars. A bit long, but worth a view when time permits.
#1113
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By the way, the usual base models are fast at 0-60 in ~5 sec. Not light speed, but still mixing it with the older Porsche 911s.
The dual motor versions are ridiculously fast at ~4 sec
The 'Ludicrous mode' version are, well ludicrous at ~2.4 sec
And the Roadster 2 will have 'plaid mode' at 1.9 sec
and if you want to know where the naming convention comes from :
I like how not seriously he takes naming ....
Here is the 'ludicrous speed' easter egg
And here is the video that GIF was lifted from, with the plaid mode easter egg (see 4m in)
Oh, and Musk has recently tweeted that the 1.9s will just be the base model. There will be an option pack to take it to the 'next level' -
The dual motor versions are ridiculously fast at ~4 sec
The 'Ludicrous mode' version are, well ludicrous at ~2.4 sec
And the Roadster 2 will have 'plaid mode' at 1.9 sec
and if you want to know where the naming convention comes from :
I like how not seriously he takes naming ....
Here is the 'ludicrous speed' easter egg
And here is the video that GIF was lifted from, with the plaid mode easter egg (see 4m in)
Oh, and Musk has recently tweeted that the 1.9s will just be the base model. There will be an option pack to take it to the 'next level' -
Last edited by GarryP; Nov 19th 2017 at 11:24 am.
#1114
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Plaid mode.
Good videos.
Have never watched Spaceballs, maybe I will check it out.
Good videos.
Have never watched Spaceballs, maybe I will check it out.
#1115
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Motorway end of things is basically done. Town deliveries will be there by 2025, but in the meantime you can slice through driver hours and thus drivers, with plucking the low hanging fruit.
Actually, I'm not sure on that. If anything I thing volume will fall.
Once again, your understanding of the drivers on the transport business model is limited. It's about cutting costs.
Actually, I'm not sure on that. If anything I thing volume will fall.
Once again, your understanding of the drivers on the transport business model is limited. It's about cutting costs.
Luckily for the industry, container transportation has grown and is projected to continue to do so. What are we just going to do - stop buying stuff from other places than where we live? Do you actually believe the stuff you write?
http://portsaustralia.com.au/assets/...iner-Ports.pdf
1000km for the roadster. The truck range etc. is predicated on the manual truck driving hours which currently pertain. You can recharge in the 30min break you are legally required to take for hours on the road (smart actually, they optimised round this).
Obviously will be quiet, no big diesel engine to wake the neighbours. Not sure about the braking.
Actually it will probably be those who can downsize to reduce costs, coupled with those that have tight control of inventory (eg not Aussie retail). Store experience won't be economic. Even at present stores have a 30% markup for rent, power, spotty oik. Push that further and we'd be talking 50% markup for 'store experience' and outside Harrods, that's not going to fly.
Yeah, that should ring alarm bells, given how clueless he is.
Obviously will be quiet, no big diesel engine to wake the neighbours. Not sure about the braking.
Actually it will probably be those who can downsize to reduce costs, coupled with those that have tight control of inventory (eg not Aussie retail). Store experience won't be economic. Even at present stores have a 30% markup for rent, power, spotty oik. Push that further and we'd be talking 50% markup for 'store experience' and outside Harrods, that's not going to fly.
Yeah, that should ring alarm bells, given how clueless he is.
#1116
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So how can they get more. Well driver 1. Relying on increasing need for transportation goods. As we become more and more globalised and manufacturing becomes more centralised, things need to travel from where they are made to other parts of the world. 2. If 1. fails which is unlikely, dominate your competitors (see tobacco companies - the very reason why they are still in business attracting growth, with a help from governments).
You forgot the other jobs. Marketing, Sales, Customer Experience, Website Developers, Automation Engineers, Software Developers, HR (I wish they would be automated out of existence).
#1117
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Glad you agree. Garry seems to think they only want to cost cut which is laughable.
So how can they get more. Well driver 1. Relying on increasing need for transportation goods. As we become more and more globalised and manufacturing becomes more centralised, things need to travel from where they are made to other parts of the world. 2. If 1. fails which is unlikely, dominate your competitors (see tobacco companies - the very reason why they are still in business attracting growth, with a help from governments).
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So how can they get more. Well driver 1. Relying on increasing need for transportation goods. As we become more and more globalised and manufacturing becomes more centralised, things need to travel from where they are made to other parts of the world. 2. If 1. fails which is unlikely, dominate your competitors (see tobacco companies - the very reason why they are still in business attracting growth, with a help from governments).
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How about in an increasingly digital world the very need for physical 'stuff' is going to decline.
#1118
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So you don't think we will have future requirement for physical things? Buildings, roads, bridges, for starters?
#1119
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Its just fact unless of course they invent teleportation, where physical things become particles, faxed from one location to the next and reassembled at the destination.
So you don't think we will have future requirement for physical things? Buildings, roads, bridges, for starters?
So you don't think we will have future requirement for physical things? Buildings, roads, bridges, for starters?
#1120
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And more, with automation, the likelihood is manufacture closer to market (cost and time savings), which means less shipping things around the world.
On the plus side, just in time delivery by drone is more a thing, particularly food.
#1121
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I suppose one day we can all have the ultimate 3D printer in the garage. It prints everything from clothes (as you mentioned) to TV's.
#1122
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Remember, tech companies are businesses too. They don't do things for free.
I think you are starting to get it.
No money equals no drones. Catch 22.
#1123
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Garry. Time to put your money where your mouth is. Musk needs you. OUCH
http://www.smh.com.au/business/innovation/elon-musks-tesla-is-burning-through-10500-a-minute-as-model-3-problems-linger-20171121-gzq8p2.html
http://www.smh.com.au/business/innovation/elon-musks-tesla-is-burning-through-10500-a-minute-as-model-3-problems-linger-20171121-gzq8p2.html
#1124
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Sounding a bit ominous. Could Elon have bitten off more than he can chew?! He does seem to have a working prototype of the roadster, so 'founder funding' isn't as speculative as it could be, but engineering success and commercial success are two different games.
#1125
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Even with the recent bad news etc. the Tesla Market Cap is still $53.41B
And Ford is $48.14B ....