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Old Nov 22nd 2013, 1:37 pm
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Can anyone tell me why europeans (including british) have to go thru the points system to gain entry to australia while australians can easily enter europe (including uk) to work and stay permanently? Is europe becoming a lesser region compare to australia?
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Can anyone tell me why europeans (including british) have to go thru the points system to gain entry to australia while australians can easily enter europe (including uk) to work and stay permanently? Is europe becoming a lesser region compare to australia?
You have to be joking. Go to the UK forum and have a look at the non-EU spouse thread - then come back and tell me it's easy for an Australian to get into the UK.
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Can anyone tell me why europeans (including british) have to go thru the points system to gain entry to australia while australians can easily enter europe (including uk) to work and stay permanently? Is europe becoming a lesser region compare to australia?
Actually, don't bother. You're either trying to wind people up or you haven't got a clue - either way I can't be bothered.
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I think the perception is that it is easy because so many Australians have historical family links to the UK or Europe which mean they can easily move to Europe (albeit not necessarily permanently) - far more than the other way round. That those people are only a subset of all Australians does not occur to most people.
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I think the perception is that it is easy because so many Australians have historical family links to the UK or Europe which mean they can easily move to Europe (albeit not necessarily permanently) - far more than the other way round. That those people are only a subset of all Australians does not occur to most people.
I suppose I was a bit mean. It just burns me though, when people make comments such as that while there are so British citizens who can't go home with their non-EEA spouse. It'd only take 5 minutes of web searching to see the truth.

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Can anyone tell me why europeans (including british) have to go thru the points system to gain entry to australia while australians can easily enter europe (including uk) to work and stay permanently? Is europe becoming a lesser region compare to australia?
First post. Got to be a wind up.
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Can anyone tell me why europeans (including british) have to go thru the points system to gain entry to australia while australians can easily enter europe (including uk) to work and stay permanently? Is europe becoming a lesser region compare to australia?
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Can anyone tell me why europeans (including british) have to go thru the points system to gain entry to australia while australians can easily enter europe (including uk) to work and stay permanently?
No we can't. I got into the UK with an ancestry visa, and even then I wasn't entitled to benefits or permanent residence.
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There is this backdoor route via other eu countries to get into UK. No need to sit for ielts, work or skill assessments and pay astronomical visa fees so long as one partner is from eu or uk. However, Australia starts charging high fees even one can smell or see the visa.
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There is this backdoor route via other eu countries to get into UK. No need to sit for ielts, work or skill assessments and pay astronomical visa fees so long as one partner is from eu or uk. However, Australia starts charging high fees even one can smell or see the visa.
I wonder what smell Oz visas have? Probably eucalyptus.
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There is this backdoor route via other eu countries to get into UK. No need to sit for ielts, work or skill assessments and pay astronomical visa fees so long as one partner is from eu or uk. However, Australia starts charging high fees even one can smell or see the visa.
How about those of us who don't have an EU or UK spouse? Australia is much easier to get a permanent visa to than the UK.

We ended up here because we couldn't qualify for a permanent visa for the UK.
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That is also what I think- Oz seems to be on the way to be 'colonized' by asians (especially south asians). British people seem to be on the losing end of this migration. They have to compete on the same pay as them but have to pay double or triple for an airfare back home (not mentioning other relocation costs). Unless the job prospects down under is extremely fantastic, there is no good reason to go down under.
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Unless the job prospects down under is extremely fantastic, there is no good reason to go down under.
Fine. Don't go then. That way it won't matter that you have to pass a points test to get in.
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That is also what I think- Oz seems to be on the way to be 'colonized' by asians (especially south asians). British people seem to be on the losing end of this migration. They have to compete on the same pay as them but have to pay double or triple for an airfare back home (not mentioning other relocation costs). Unless the job prospects down under is extremely fantastic, there is no good reason to go down under.
Don't know what you mean by losing end. But I know nobody forced me to migrate and sensible people factor in relocation and visit back costs when tey make the decision.
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