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Old Sep 15th 2009, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by Lorrielou
I'm hoping that by the time she is older, there will be more treatments available.
But these will still need to be tested, and gambles taken by people.

If everyone waited until someone else had tried and tested it, no one would ever get to get anything.

Look at prozac, 27 deaths before it was even issued, look at the pill, how many died from that.

If everyone had said no, we would not have any of those, indeed, we would have no drugs in medicine whatsoever.

I understand the thought to protect ones own, but it is a good job for us that not everyone does that, otherwise
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I'm hoping that by the time she is older, there will be more treatments available.
There wouldn't be any for you later.
 
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Heaven forbid this happens in Australia...

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...info_1331.html
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But these will still need to be tested, and gambles taken by people.

If everyone waited until someone else had tried and tested it, no one would ever get to get anything.

Look at prozac, 27 deaths before it was even issued, look at the pill, how many died from that.

If everyone had said no, we would not have any of those, indeed, we would have no drugs in medicine whatsoever.

I understand the thought to protect ones own, but it is a good job for us that not everyone does that, otherwise
There wouldn't be any for you later.
Regarding Prozac ... this has been one of pharma giant Eli Lillys biggest fraudulent cover-ups !!
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Girl dies after cervical cancer vaccine
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...?section=world

Saw on Australian news on TV that the NHS are saying we can't blame the vaccine as they have to investigate other causes.

Yeah right - it's never the vaccine's fault!! Alert Alert Coverup Coverup
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Regarding Prozac ... this has been one of pharma giant Eli Lillys biggest fraudulent cover-ups !!
I almost commited suicide at age 17 because of the shit drug called PROZAC. Now they aren't allowed to give it to minors as they know how dangerous it is.
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
But these will still need to be tested, and gambles taken by people.

If everyone waited until someone else had tried and tested it, no one would ever get to get anything.

Look at prozac, 27 deaths before it was even issued, look at the pill, how many died from that.

If everyone had said no, we would not have any of those, indeed, we would have no drugs in medicine whatsoever.

I understand the thought to protect ones own, but it is a good job for us that not everyone does that, otherwise
There wouldn't be any for you later.
I thought they had drug trials to check for these things BEFORE sending the drugs etc out to the public. In the end it is a trial and error thing... a few lives to save a few more...
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Old Sep 29th 2009, 4:01 am
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I thought they had drug trials to check for these things BEFORE sending the drugs etc out to the public. In the end it is a trial and error thing... a few lives to save a few more...
They do, that prozac one for example, 27 deaths during the trials, and then it was released.

Gardasil did their tests in 2005, but these tests are all carried out on members of the public, volunteers admittedly, but everyone still has the choice of whether to take the drug or not.

But, if no-one volunteered to be used in trying it out... ?
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
They do, that prozac one for example, 27 deaths during the trials, and then it was released.

Gardasil did their tests in 2005, but these tests are all carried out on members of the public, volunteers admittedly, but everyone still has the choice of whether to take the drug or not.

But, if no-one volunteered to be used in trying it out... ?
They would use prisoners to trial the drugs ... ...

If no-one volunteered then it would take much longer to issue and a lot more 'introduction' deaths would occur. Still though, with all these volunteers surely they'd have a fair idea of the above mentioned side effects and have it worked on before introducing it?

Probably best to wait a couple of years and see what happens to those that have gotten the vaccine to see if it's safe enough... who knows they may start developing other cancers or grow extra limbs perhaps...
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Girl dies after cervical cancer vaccine
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...?section=world

Saw on Australian news on TV that the NHS are saying we can't blame the vaccine as they have to investigate other causes.

Yeah right - it's never the vaccine's fault!! Alert Alert Coverup Coverup
Shall we wait until the autopsy report is released? I have my money on an anaphylactic shock due to one of the components....but time will tell.

(By the way, if a woman dies in a car-crash 360 days after giving birth, statistically she "dies due to childbirth".)
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Shall we wait until the autopsy report is released?
Far too sensible!
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I almost commited suicide at age 17 because of the shit drug called PROZAC. Now they aren't allowed to give it to minors as they know how dangerous it is.
Thing is, they knew how dangerous it was at the start ... the manipulation of the trials has now been proven. The fact is they blatantly lied about the drug in order to get approval, didnt give a toss about how many lives they ruined and just sat back covering there asses and counting their billions.
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Thing is, they knew how dangerous it was at the start ... the manipulation of the trials has now been proven. The fact is they blatantly lied about the drug in order to get approval, didnt give a toss about how many lives they ruined and just sat back covering there asses and counting their billions.
Probably true. The drug companies are pretty dodgy... Look at swine flu... lets create a panic so that people, governments etc panic buy lots of drugs .... $$$
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The drug companies are pretty dodgy...
Nearly as dodgy as the alternative therapy industry!
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Probably true. The drug companies are pretty dodgy... Look at swine flu... lets create a panic so that people, governments etc panic buy lots of drugs .... $$$
No probably about it
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they aren't giving the vaccine to boys even though they carry the virus. A little strange just to protect girls from the outcome but not to eradicate the virus.
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