paulry

You're right. And Sonia Kruger is too.

Sonia Kruger calls on Australia to stop taking Muslim immigrants

She seems to have stirred up quite a kerfuffle from the usual crowd.

Internet borrows Sonia Kruger's #AsAMother defence to fight back against bigotry

Today Extra response to Sonia Kruger's Muslim controversy typifies mess

Beoz

Why do you think Jacqui Lambie is there, why do you think Pauline Hanson is there, why do you think Donald Trump is there, why do you think Nigel Farage was there?

Back atch ya

Beoz

Yep

Andrew Bolt makes a very good assessment. How we as the tax payer can be paying for the ABC and Australia Race Discrimiation Commissioner be subsided by the taxpayer for their hypocritical and bigotted views of Sonia Kruger?

Amazulu

But you're forgetting that those who consider themselves intellectually superior (aka champagne socialists aka socialism for everyone but themselves) don't like it when real people vote for candidates who are addressing their concerns - concerns that the (alleged) intellectually superior sneer at as being racist, bigoted, small-minded etc

I don't like everything that Hanson says and wouldn't have voted for but man, she spoke some common sense on Q&A on Monday. As for Kruger, if you listen to what she's saying, you'll hear that she's concerned that innocent families are being wiped out by some islamic terrorist nutjobs and she doesn't want the same to happen here. What's wrong with that? If people can't speak out against aspects of islam that they are concerned about without being cast as racist, what hope does our democracy have?

GarryP

Already answered.

Let's be honest, all of those are larger than live, bombastic, frankly ludicrous, candidates that will say and do things to make people chuckle.

Sober, serious, reserved type characters - even with the same far right tendencies, tend not to do very well.

Call it the BoJo factor.

Amazulu

Rubbish

Theresa May looks pretty sober and serious to me. So do Merkel, Obama, Turnbull, Key, Abe etc

They all look to be doing pretty well

Amazulu

I see Susan Carland has got stuck into Hanson on the, surprise, surprise, Guardian website

I wonder how long we will have to wait before here hubby, Whaleed has a go too?

Beoz

You think people voted for Pauline Hanson as the joke candidate?

Seriously Garry. You are better than that.

The problem is, terror is topical, terror has a purpose - islam, terror has a solution - get rid of Islam, terror is striking fear in to the average family. People are voting for them because of fear. ..... and it isn't because they are the joke candidate.

Its the same thing as pollies going after medicare - its strikes fear into the average lefty. You voted for that. Rednecks vote for Hanson.

See the parallels?

Amazulu

After the events in Turkey on the weekend, I had a read about Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the modern version of that nation

What a man

The islamic world could do with a 21st century Atatürk to help it reform itself - reform that it desperately needs

Beoz

Hanson ... she's comical but she's in there, voted in, and could be the difference between stuff getting through parliment or not.

That said the champaign socialists are more dangerous than Hanson.

Hanson is simple, easily understood, calls a spade a spade. The socialists just breed hypocrisy and take the focus away from the real issues.

GarryP

Seems like I don't even have to point out you are wrong these days - you do it for yourself.

Point is that extremist far right types don't tend to get in unless they are loony. Even abbott comes under that heading really.

Jeb Bush was far right, but boring - look what happened to him.

If you are far right, you better be packing the clown shoes.

Beoz

Yeah but I didn't nor would ever vote for her ..... 500,000 Australians think her points on Islam make sense and live in fear of Islam. Isn't that telling?

You see the parallels on voting for Islamic fear and Mediscare fear right?

GarryP

Yes, Murdoch is one of the prime problems with society and needs to be jailed....

Amazulu

A point I always raise when his name is mentioned - when did people stop thinking for themselves?

Who gives a shit what Murdoch says, he's only relative if people do/vote as he suggests. He has an opinion and he's entitled to it but it is no more relevant or irrelevant than yours or mine

You don't like him because he has a right-wing, conservative viewpoint but you are then prepared to listen to and accept the viewpoints of left-wing, western-hating assholes like Flannery, Corbyn, Chomsky, Moore, various Guardian journalists etc

Swings and roundabouts comrade

If you don't like what Murdoch has to say, don't listen to him, don't read his publications

Beoz

Errr. The Murdoch press was all over Mediscare in the election campaign.

He should be jailed for that and so should Bill Shorten.