Originally Posted by Wol

Hmmm Yes! now let's see, who's been in charge of regulation these last dozen or so years?

Thinks.

Oh yes! Gordon Brown and his well-known right wing views.

Give me a break!

Originally Posted by framac67

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To Scottish people and the working classes, she was the devil incarnate and when Scotland didnt vote for her but had to suffer her then bring on independence so it never happens again. FREEDOM FROM THE TORY SCUM.

Originally Posted by Sherro

So, assuming the inevitable, and The Torys get to power, do you think it is off the back off the way labour has managed the economy or does Joe public genuniely believe the Conservative party have a better set of policies?

Id say, from my time in the UK recently the complete lack of any real respect for Gordon Brown (and lets face it, he is no charactor like Blair ptiched himself in as initially) and mass immigration has lead to their downfall, especially in the home counties, every i spoke to in London or Essex or Cambridgeshire was fed up with the volume of Romanians, Polish and other EU people setting up shop.

No one ever talks about John Major, I must say, seemed like a nice guy when in school I was forced to watch his political programs, and seeing him on BBC recently he comes across extremely sharp. Ill be honest I was in my teens when he was in power and probably the least interested in politics I have ever been.

Sorry, rambling post, but i reckon people just want labour out, like they did the torys in the mid nineties, the time has come for change and nothing brown or his govt can do will sway that i cant imagine.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

John Major did most certainly bring another style in with his leadership.He was calm, unflappable and came across as a genuine and nice guy.
A Torry Harold Wilson,in fact.(probably doesn't mean much to most)
A complete opposite to Thatcher in not being an idealogue.

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders

But it's the same anywhere really. I remember WANTING to vote Labour in 97. For me it wasn't about kicking out the Tories, although that was a nice by-product, it was about voting for an exciting New-Labour.

Same here in Aus. People had been wanting to kick out the Coalition for quite some years too. But Labour kept making p!ssweak attempts at forming a viable opposition. As soon as they got their act together people were willing to make the switch.

I am not sure the Tories have done enough

Originally Posted by the troubadour

John Major did most certainly bring another style in with his leadership.He was calm, unflappable and came across as a genuine and nice guy.
A Torry Harold Wilson,in fact.(probably doesn't mean much to most)
A complete opposite to Thatcher in not being an idealogue.

Originally Posted by paulry

I hold my head in shame when I say that I voted for "New" Labour in 1997. For pretty much the same reasons as you. But I was duped . Should have listened to my OH - she said it would all end in tears.

But I don't feel ready to support the Tories with David Cameron at the helm... There's something cameleon-like about him.

Originally Posted by paulry

Yeah, John is/was definately a good guy of British politics.

Originally Posted by scottishcelts

I too voted for 'new' labour in 1997 (was it really that long ago ).

No matter what, I will NEVER vote for the tories.

Originally Posted by Grayling

So did I ....and would do again

It will be a cold day in hell before I would ever vote for a Tory

Originally Posted by Grayling

Come off it.....you know that most of the deregulation took place under the tories.

.....and imagine the protest there would have been, by the free marketeers, if labour had tried to reverse it

Originally Posted by isgraham

The fact that the Sun (written for 10 year olds) has influence say's a lot about the general level of intelligence and independence of mind in the UK.

Originally Posted by Grayling

pity he was so useless as a politician then.

Originally Posted by paulry

I'm neither English or Scottish so I'm staying out of this one