framac67

Two different countries and never more evident during the Thatcher years. Closed shipbuilding industry, foisted the hated poll tax a year before England where incidentally there were riots on the streets, unemployment was running sky high but the national average brought it down to around 5 million but with massaged figures showing it at 3. Coal industry shut and she said no pain, no gain. I (ONE) tory seat in the whole of Scotland yet we suffered ten years of the evil sadistic bastard. I feel a thread coming on.

scottishcelts

....and how many suicides as a result?

She truly was an evil cow of the highest order

framac67

Hiya hun. Trying to liven things up as theyve been quite boring lately and none other than Mrs T to get the blood going.

paulry

Have to admit that the prospect of David Cameron and his lot getting into power again fills me with horror. I remember their messy end the last time around.

I think UKIP will be the best option but The Sun needs to back them first. Definately the UK deserves a new era of politics free of Tory and Labour.

Sally Redux

Oh no I don't agree, I'm in favour of close links with Europe.

scottishcelts

- Don't get me started on her. Remember the old tunes at Paradise?

scottishcelts

Me too

framac67

Excuse my ignorance, but are they not English nationalists full of BNP sympathisers.

paulry

Not sure. I only became aware of them in the run up to the last European elections.

UKIP policies in brief 2009

framac67

The sun used to be a tory rag in England but in Scotland it supported first the nats then labour as was highlighted in the record many a time.

Sally Redux

Weren't they Kilroy-Silk's lot?
Since I left an 'English Democratic Party' has appeared which may be what Framac is thinking of.

framac67

Sure thats them. Didnt they advertse tantric bouncing or some shit like that

paulry

I would rather the UK was entirely independent from Europe. Trade links yes but political decisions should be for the British alone.

scottishcelts

They are proper loonies

jimbo_d

I can understand why you feel so bitter. However now with a devolved Scottish parlament, it's the English who are hard done by and not the Scots, in 2005 Labour would not have won the election had it not been for the Scots voting for them, even though they have their own parlement and own MPs, yet still retain rights to sit in the house of commons. From both sides of the border a break up of the union has been wanted for years.