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FTTP - Fibre baby, the good stuff 3 20.00%
HFC - it's fibre, but ... 1 6.67%
FTTN - the Trunbull special 2 13.33%
FTTC - better than FTTN 1 6.67%
Mobile Broadband - feel the money burn 1 6.67%
ADSL, still 7 46.67%
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Old Sep 25th 2017, 10:48 am   #1
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Who has been moved to the NBN, what technology, which provider, and how's it working out?
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According to the website we're not due to be done until about this time next year. Roads about three minutes away were done a while ago.
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I thought my area was next year, but locals are claiming they have NBN.
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As mentioned before

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is useful for working out what you will get, and the NBN site will give an idea of when.

I wondered how many had yet moved, since progress seems slow.
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NBN MTM Alpha

is useful for working out what you will get, and the NBN site will give an idea of when.

I wondered how many had yet moved, since progress seems slow.
I honestly haven't taken much notice of the whole thing other than to see when we'll maybe get it so I have no idea what the different 'options' on your poll and on the map mean. For example, there's a small very new estate in the middle of a nearby suburb that seems to be more special than its surrounding areas. What does it all mean?
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I honestly haven't taken much notice of the whole thing other than to see when we'll maybe get it so I have no idea what the different 'options' on your poll and on the map mean. For example, there's a small very new estate in the middle of a nearby suburb that seems to be more special than its surrounding areas. What does it all mean?
As the legend says, they are lucky enough to get FTTP - proper fibre to the home. So scope to go up to 1Gb in future (once trunbull has gone).

If you click on individual houses you get more details on what each can get.
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As the legend says, they are lucky enough to get FTTP - proper fibre to the home. So scope to go up to 1Gb in future (once trunbull has gone).

If you click on individual houses you get more details on what each can get.
So how do houses those few roads get a better set up than all the houses around them? I don't understand how that works.
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So how do houses those few roads get a better set up than all the houses around them? I don't understand how that works.
Well the cynical answer is an MP lives there.

Although it might be that the houses are new and were built at exactly the right time.
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On a holiday property on the sunshine coast we have NBN with OPTUS.

Letter arrived telling us our area was being cut off that we MUST connect to NBN.

It is so painfully slow and at peak times often so bad as to be basically unresponsive.

It is an utter joke.

But even funnier after we connected OPTUS sent another letter saying original letter was incorrect and we do not need to switch.

The modum arrived 5 days after we were connected.

BTW the once connected all calls made from the home phone should you use it are CHARGED. Even local calls are no longer free.

The previous ADSL service was sketchy but better than this absolute nonsense.
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So how do houses those few roads get a better set up than all the houses around them? I don't understand how that works.
99.9% of people don't need fibre to home at present and for the foreseeable future.

Money better spent elsewhere.

Garry thinks that traditional bad economic management of the Labor party is better for this country because he is too tight to splash out on fibre to his home.

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According to the website we're not due to be done until about this time next year. Roads about three minutes away were done a while ago.
We got all excited last week when there was an inordinate amount of sweaty youths wandering up and down the road with a drum of cable, looking pensively at the telecom pits.

Checked the website, and we're not due until April-June next year (and then we're getting Fibre to the Curb)

I suppose they may have been doing some kind of preparatory work. (Or, as usual, trying to figure out why the adsl signal is shite)

Areas 20 minutes away in one direction and 15 minutes away in the other direction have all been done.

I'm hopeful that when we do finally get it, they'll have ironed out all the issues.
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On a holiday property on the sunshine coast we have NBN with OPTUS.

It is so painfully slow and at peak times often so bad as to be basically unresponsive.

It is an utter joke.
Ahh, well there's your problem. Optus are an utter joke, and their network is massively overloaded. Avoid.
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99.9% of people don't need fibre to home at present and for the foreseeable future.

Money better spent elsewhere.

Garry thinks that traditional bad economic management of the Labor party is better for this country because he is too tight to splash out on fibre to his home.
Are you sure you aren't trunbull?

If they did it right and rolled out fibre to every home, then they would have a solution that worked today AND in 30 years, since the scope is there to carry much more data than 100Mbit. All the other are limited, and will need to be replaced (FTTN isn't fit today).

Oh, and Beoz, I'm the one in the survey WITH fibre ...
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Are you sure you aren't trunbull?

If they did it right and rolled out fibre to every home, then they would have a solution that worked today AND in 30 years, since the scope is there to carry much more data than 100Mbit. All the other are limited, and will need to be replaced (FTTN isn't fit today).

Oh, and Beoz, I'm the one in the survey WITH fibre ...
It costs $4405 for the NBN to hook up an existing house with fibre all the way to the premises. Fibre just to the node – a communal box in the neighbourhood – with existing copper connecting the rest of the way, costs the NBN $2172 per premise.

Now let me see. Considering 99.9% of properties do not need fibre to the home yet, that would not make economic sense.

Fibre to the street is being done. Over the next whatever years when our appetite for speed increases, it can be done. Stagger the cost. Make the money before you spend it.

You see these guys have the task of managing the countries money. If Labor were in power they would double (more likely quadruple) the cost of this thing adding more debt. But that's Labor for you. Lets give everyone the feel good factor that they have one of the fastest internets in the world, without actually needing it.

Way to go.
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It costs $4405 for the NBN to hook up an existing house with fibre all the way to the premises. Fibre just to the node – a communal box in the neighbourhood – with existing copper connecting the rest of the way, costs the NBN $2172 per premise.
Actually it demonstrates something different. The NBN claims it costs $4405 to deliver fibre to the premises, but in NZ its $2677 and in the US its $2259. So either NBNCo is massively more incompetent than those across the Tasman, or they are telling porky pies.

Or both.

It looks like NBNCo have both been pushing up the fibre costs to please their political masters (NBN are known to tell complete whoppers) and failing to employ better techniques that halve the cost of fibre (which also pleases their master).

Upshot is Australia could have fibre for ~$2500, only slightly more than doing a bodge job with old copper.

Why NBN Co's justifications for not rolling out fibre to the premises are misleading

Even worse, the cost of all the nodes, and powering those nodes, and replacing the naff old copper, is significant, both in upfront cost, extra time, and ongoing maintenance costs. Fibre has none of that. Oh, and because of the uniquely stupid way they are doing FTTN/FTTC its a rip and replace to fix it and move to all fibre.

All up, fibre makes the most economic sense. No question about it.

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You see these guys have the task of managing the countries money. If Labor were in power they would double (more likely quadruple) the cost of this thing adding more debt. But that's Labor for you. Lets give everyone the feel good factor that they have one of the fastest internets in the world, without actually needing it.
It's the coalition that blew out the costs and killed the NBN business plan. Turnbull handed over $11bn for the copper/HFC, after saying they would get it for free during the election. That's a pretty big financial cockup, and a big part of why the NBN is so over budget. But then again, you knew that.
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