Originally Posted by ozzieeagle

One advantage that the UK has over Aus with the UK summer is the Light hours. Winter is approaching us in the Southern states, it wont be as cold, but it sure as hell will be dark when most people get home. The Light hours in the UK summer compared to the Aussie summer are far greater, giving more time for people to enjoy the outside daylight hours.


Personally I'd rather be outside in 7 degrees in London at 7.30 pm in April in the light, than 13 degrees in April here in Melbourne at 7.30 pm in the Dark.

Also who cares if It's dark at 3.45 pm mid December in London, if it's only 2 degrees outside, when you can compare that to Mid June, at 10.30 pm a nice dusk and 11 degrees. Light hours are as important as the Temperature in my opinion.

Originally Posted by sassenach

Its strange how the australian winters affect you ,i thought the winters here where great when i first came here now i hate them and yet i was in the uk for winter last year and didt give a monkeys ,maybe something to do with bonfire night and xmas lights etc

Originally Posted by hevs

This is funny to read. When i joined here nearly 3 years ago posts like this were common place and in those days you had the likes of PB and Dotty screaming in a very condecending way for us to "take off our rose tints" And all of us telling each other to "just ignore them. They're only bitter etc"

So. Would any of us listen? NO! Because it was our dream to live and we were gonna do it no matter what some tool on an internet forum said.

Now it seems to have come full circle. Those of us who have been around a bit realise that, although said often in a somewhat offensive manner, PB, dotty and the like DID have some very valid points.

Now WE all choose to share those points but in a constructive, less condecending way and kindly say "take yer rose tints off love, yer dreaming" And we certainly have more back up these days too.

So. Would knowing what i know now change my decision? No. But its been a long hard road and i wouldn't choose to do it ever again

Everyones needs, wants and expectations vary immensly and for that they should never be judged

Originally Posted by movetoperth

so who's shoes are you filling? PB's or Dotty?

Lynn

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle

I've been giving this subject of light etc some serious thought. I reckon that the Uk has been given the upperhand by nature when it comes to light hours etc. Long long light hours in the Summer, when one really needs them. Dark in the Winter, when natural light isn't as needed. More light hours in Spring and Autumn, (at the cost of the winter darkness).

Take that into consideration with the way Most of the UK cities are lit up with probably twice to three times the amount wattage in lighting that the Average Aussie city has (street and shop lighting etc), Which makes winter from a light point of view possibly more palatable in the UK.

Coburg here in Melbourne, is a darn site darker at Night, than the better lit Greenwich or Lewisham. I think that makes a big difference.


I'm sure I went out more in the Winter in the UK, albeit to indoor venues.

Originally Posted by hevs

I wasn't saying that you were judging, just that "people" in general should never judge.

FWIW life has, untill recently, been good. I am not returning and neither do i intend to. But having a husband life threateningly ill in hospital with none of his family around takes its toll and certainly makes you (and him) feel very very very far away from those you want to see most in the world. Its certainly not something i factored into the equation whilst dreaming of barbies on the beach!

Ozzie, a rare thing but i do, for once, totally see where you're coming from. Not sure i agree, but totally understand

Originally Posted by perchard

When we left the UK, my family and I were in the knowledge that we were moving to a foreign country, with their own laws and customs.

I think if you start of with that pearl of wisdom you wont think you will be moving to somewhere you think is the UK with sun.

Originally Posted by daisymoo

WOW you dont have to shout, i know it's not utopia but you must have felt like me when you were in my shoes, optimistic excited and all the rest of it of a brand new life and what i'm saying is i find it easier to cope with things when the skies are blue and i have spring in my step, i'm not stupid enough to think that it can solve anything but i will be working just as hard as everyone else to make it work. My thread was definitely not a criticism of anyone just a view.
carol

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle

I've been giving this subject of light etc some serious thought. I reckon that the Uk has been given the upperhand by nature when it comes to light hours etc. Long long light hours in the Summer, when one really needs them. Dark in the Winter, when natural light isn't as needed. More light hours in Spring and Autumn, (at the cost of the winter darkness).

Take that into consideration with the way Most of the UK cities are lit up with probably twice to three times the amount wattage in lighting that the Average Aussie city has (street and shop lighting etc), Which makes winter from a light point of view possibly more palatable in the UK.

Coburg here in Melbourne, is a darn site darker at Night, than the better lit Greenwich or Lewisham. I think that makes a big difference.


I'm sure I went out more in the Winter in the UK, albeit to indoor venues.

Originally Posted by hevs

The latter. PB was just TOO rude

Originally Posted by Bix

Don't you dare start mimicking Dotty.

I hated her contrascending attitude and told her so.