View Poll Results: Will the conviction change on appeal Yes or No?
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Oscar Pistorius Appeal
Nov 1st 2014, 1:56 am
#16
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
Well he did kill her. There's no disputing that. Not even from OP. So sure he's feeling guilty ..... No doubt about it. If someone accidently killed someone by drink driving or the like the relatives would have a good case to seek compensation. Same in this case. Let's call this compensation.
I can only go by what I would do in a similar situation - I wouldn't allow the bastard to get the slightest bit of relief from his guilt by voluntarily sending me money. I would, however, serve a writ against him in a civil court and sue the hell out of him. The money would be used to provide advice and support to women and men who were subjected to violence by their partners.
Nov 1st 2014, 2:21 am
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
She said it wasn't dolus eventualis was because he couldn't have known it was Reeva behind the door. Ignoring that he damn well could, it didn't matter who he thought was behind the door, the very fact that he knew someone was there, and that shooting four bullets across the cubical meant there was a good chance of killing someone, but did it anyway, is text book dolus eventualis.
She got it wrong.
And because she explained so much in depth her reasoning, everyone knows she got it wrong.
She got it wrong.
And because she explained so much in depth her reasoning, everyone knows she got it wrong.
Nov 1st 2014, 6:25 am
#18
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
You make a good point, although I draw a distinction between using the legal system to apply for compensation, and the offender paying blood money to ease his guilt (and perhaps to water down any victim impact statements).
I can only go by what I would do in a similar situation - I wouldn't allow the bastard to get the slightest bit of relief from his guilt by voluntarily sending me money. I would, however, serve a writ against him in a civil court and sue the hell out of him. The money would be used to provide advice and support to women and men who were subjected to violence by their partners.
I can only go by what I would do in a similar situation - I wouldn't allow the bastard to get the slightest bit of relief from his guilt by voluntarily sending me money. I would, however, serve a writ against him in a civil court and sue the hell out of him. The money would be used to provide advice and support to women and men who were subjected to violence by their partners.
Nov 1st 2014, 8:59 am
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
OK let's assume manslaughter as his conviction is. There's no winner here. OP has killed his girlfriend, he lives with that forever. A mother and father have lost their daughter. If it helps in the healing for both parties and the mother and father can get a financial win ..... Great .... It does help in some way in a bad situation. They could still file a civil suit against him and probably should for being a dick..
We just have different opinions on this particular point.
Nov 1st 2014, 9:20 am
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
What if the person in the locked restroom had been an unarmed burglar?
Would the sentence have been any less?
He was in no immediate danger, and armed.
Murderous rage.
Would the sentence have been any less?
He was in no immediate danger, and armed.
Murderous rage.
Nov 2nd 2014, 1:31 am
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
Nov 2nd 2014, 1:34 am
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
Would you say 'vomit that' if your relative was killed by someone who was reckless but didn't intend to murder? Just trying to take the whole murder v manslaughter argument out of it here.
Nov 2nd 2014, 1:51 pm
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
Mind you, there is the odd rellie that I'd pay to have bumped off.
waiting for the SWAT team now
Nov 3rd 2014, 8:39 am
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Re: Oscar Pistorius Appeal
Beoz, I can only say what I believe I would/wouldn't do as the parent of a child killed in the manner Reeva Steenkamp was. No idea what I'd do in an alternative scenario, but I suppose it would depend on the actual situation.
Mind you, there is the odd rellie that I'd pay to have bumped off.
waiting for the SWAT team now
Mind you, there is the odd rellie that I'd pay to have bumped off.
waiting for the SWAT team now
