teza

Fantastic post!

teza

I'll chip in. I agree with other posters, I as dual citizen of Finland and Oz have a father overseas and I would not agree to bring him over as he has not contributed to the system (hence I agree with the "pay high or wait long" policy)
You mention the Indian forums.
Well, I don't have a racist bone in my body so keep that mind, but, large Asian immigration towards Australia, and their close knit families, is the reason why them family migration laws have been tightened over years.

As far as I see it, we, the expats decided to move and leave loved ones behind. I never expected for my parents to follow, after all, I left, why should they leave everything familiar based on my choices?
And I certainly wouldn't expect the laws of another country to change to suit my choices, nor to make it free. You chose to move, your choice. The country let you in, yes, let you in, as they didn't have to but you had something to offer.
They do not need to let anyone in, that's how it's designed. Australia takes in what it needs and if it doesn't need a burden to healthcare and non tax contributing person then expect to pay for it. In fact, be lucky you'd even be considered as most won't have that chance.

And lastly, I live in Australia, I care what australia does for the good of Australia. US, New Zealand and their rules towards their countries don't even bleep on my radar.

Pulaski

Exactly! ... Though in fairness, new immigrant retirees in the US face a mountain of health insurance premiums and charges not covered by insurance (even US citizens/ long term residents are recommended to have $250,000 of savings on the day they retire to meet their health insurance premiums and expenses during retirement. It could easily be another $50k, or more, during the first five years for a new immigrant pensioner, before they are eligible for the government subsidized insurance for pensioners. ), so the financial loss to the US is much less than the UK which offers "free" medical treatment, after a small access charge for new immigrants - common sense says it should be much greater for retirees.

moneypenny20

Why on earth should people be allowed or 'free' to live where they like with no controls in place? What a barking idea. As for the cost and time of the CPV, it is what it is and there are a lot of people prepared to go through those hoops. If it was slavery no one would bother.

Made me chuckle before bed anyway so thanks for that.

Beoz

Are you happy to have millions of elderly Indians suddenly living in Australia suddenly requiring western hospital facilities?

Would you be happy to forego your free medical and your childrens free medical to pay for that?

Beoz

You should visit the Bye Bye Liberals thread. There's a bunch of people over there that think that's perfectly acceptable.

moneypenny20

I visit it a lot. I shake my head and walk away a lot as well.

GarryP

My guess is that movement, particularly for those that aren't likely to be able to contribute, is likely to get harder over time. As population turns from an asset to a liability governments will want only those that can contribute, and would quite like to get rid of those that can't. Not sure how long it will be till it's "one in, one out", but probably within the decade.

the troubadour

Immigration to Australia is big business, in case you hadn't noticed. As such liabilities are and never will be welcomed.


I suppose it all gets down to if unable to cope/live without parents then probably easier to remain home. (or a country that facilitates such a move)


Meanwhile it would appear little in the way of preventing our Ponzi immigration system to continue to does what it does best regardless of benefits to the country.

the troubadour

You forget the need to sustain house prices and bring competition to the workplace and wages.

Amazulu

And what are the advantages of nearly 1 million Syrian muslim refugees for Germany?

Actually, I should direct my question to the young German women of Cologne

moneypenny20

Probably, there's certainly no point in asking the question in a thread in Aus about Parent visas.

Amazulu

Cool but post the same response to post #24 (the post I was replying to) as well

moneypenny20

Can't it just be taken as read? I'd have to delete my post, then multi quote and reply again. Seems a bit long winded. Similar to this reply really.

Any back to the nonsense idea that the CPV is like modern day slavery and how everyone's mum, dad, uncle, aunt and budgie should be able to come over here free of charge and whenever they like....

Pulaski

Budgies are native to Australia.

/helpful