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Jun 14th 2017, 5:50 am
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#211
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Lost in BE Cyberspace
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
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Ok. I was hoping you weren't going to say the 2nd "invasion" of Iraq. There's a lot history before that one.
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Jun 14th 2017, 6:33 am
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#212
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Moreland Member
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Ok. I was hoping you weren't going to say the 2nd "invasion" of Iraq. There's a lot history before that one.
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It's got very little to do with Iraq, except that the Saudis wanted Sadaam's secular state out and the Yanks did their bidding, so as to expand the Saudis form of Islam over as much of the middle east as possible "Wahhabism"
People keep saying wake up when it comes to Islam.... what they really need to do is wake up to how the Americans are enabling "Wahhabism" and trying to destroy moderate Islam. Exactly the same thing is rolling out in Syria... this time the Russians were the excuse. It's all about spreading "Wahhabism" or Islamic fascism.
WAKE UP
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Jun 14th 2017, 8:33 am
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#213
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Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
It's got very little to do with Iraq, except that the Saudis wanted Sadaam's secular state out and the Yanks did their bidding, so as to expand the Saudis form of Islam over as much of the middle east as possible "Wahhabism"
People keep saying wake up when it comes to Islam.... what they really need to do is wake up to how the Americans are enabling "Wahhabism" and trying to destroy moderate Islam. Exactly the same thing is rolling out in Syria... this time the Russians were the excuse. It's all about spreading "Wahhabism" or Islamic fascism.
WAKE UP
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If any of what you say is true then it goes something like this.
Lets mind f**k a region because we know their religion is so screwed up they will end up killing each other and a few westerners along the way.
Mind if I say it. WAKE UP.
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Jun 14th 2017, 12:56 pm
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#214
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Moreland Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,032
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by Beoz
If any of what you say is true then it goes something like this.
Lets mind f**k a region because we know their religion is so screwed up they will end up killing each other and a few westerners along the way.
Mind if I say it. WAKE UP.
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Tell that to the US and their love affair with the Saudis. Problem is the US would be broke without the 40 billion dollars they pledge to invest in the US economy during the Trump reign. The UK has 440 Billion dollars worth of Saudi money invested in it's economy. Which makes the political ties that little bit easier to understand.
As the oil money starts to run out they are desperate to increase their political power.
Here's a little bit of light reading if you want to take time to investigate further...
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/w...slam.html?_r=0
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Last edited by ozzieeagle; Jun 14th 2017 at 1:00 pm.
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Jun 14th 2017, 1:23 pm
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#215
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Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Scotland
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Tell that to the US and their love affair with the Saudis. Problem is the US would be broke without the 40 billion dollars they pledge to invest in the US economy during the Trump reign. The UK has 440 Billion dollars worth of Saudi money invested in it's economy. Which makes the political ties that little bit easier to understand.
As the oil money starts to run out they are desperate to increase their political power.
Here's a little bit of light reading if you want to take time to investigate further...
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/w...slam.html?_r=0
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I'll predict you'll get a 'NY Times'   rather than an intelligent response.
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Jun 14th 2017, 10:26 pm
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#216
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Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Tell that to the US and their love affair with the Saudis. Problem is the US would be broke without the 40 billion dollars they pledge to invest in the US economy during the Trump reign. The UK has 440 Billion dollars worth of Saudi money invested in it's economy. Which makes the political ties that little bit easier to understand.
As the oil money starts to run out they are desperate to increase their political power.
Here's a little bit of light reading if you want to take time to investigate further...
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/w...slam.html?_r=0
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Yeah don't give me Times or Guardian crap. Another biased article which I am sure has an equally biased flipside.
Its a great story though, really designed to breed shock and awe. I enjoyed reading it.
Simple economics really. Saudi has money, other countries and businesses want a piece of it. That's the way it goes.
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Jun 15th 2017, 2:58 am
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#217
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Moreland Member
Joined: Feb 2005
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Yeah don't give me Times or Guardian crap. Another biased article which I am sure has an equally biased flipside.
Its a great story though, really designed to breed shock and awe. I enjoyed reading it.
Simple economics really. Saudi has money, other countries and businesses want a piece of it. That's the way it goes.
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See if you can find an attack by Shia Muslims on the West in the past two decades
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Jun 15th 2017, 5:08 am
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#218
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Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
See if you can find an attack by Shia Muslims on the West in the past two decades 
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Probably not - perhaps something Hezbollah may have done. So few of them though.
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Aug 17th 2017, 10:40 pm
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#219
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Card Carrying Deplorable
Joined: May 2003
Location: Alloha snack bar
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Re: Manchester
Drip, drip, drip
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Australia/UK - Same sh*t, different bucket
The Wallaby, still the bitch of the Springbok.
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Aug 18th 2017, 2:05 am
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#220
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idealist
Joined: May 2013
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Re: Manchester
It's all starting to feel a bit orchestrated to me, and not necessarily by ISIS. I feel as if someone is trying to manipulate the population into a mind set that serves their adgenda. **** it, it's Friday, time for a beer
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Sep 15th 2017, 3:22 pm
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#221
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Card Carrying Deplorable
Joined: May 2003
Location: Alloha snack bar
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Re: Manchester
Drip, drip, drip
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Australia/UK - Same sh*t, different bucket
The Wallaby, still the bitch of the Springbok.
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Sep 18th 2017, 9:27 pm
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#222
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idealist
Joined: May 2013
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Re: Manchester
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Drip, drip, drip
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Trying to nail bomb a carriage full of school kids, would love to hear an argument as to why the little ****er shouldn't be shot
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