Dual Citizenship A Barrier ?

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    Quote: Even you aren't THAT naive ...
    Quote: It makes perfect sense.
    I take it back ...
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    SA (like Tas) is a passenger state - anti-business and socialist to the core. It drags the rest of Australia down so if you live and work on one of the productive states (Qld, NSW, Vic, WA), you pay for the people in SA to live in fairy tale land. They only survive because of pork-barrel politicians like Christopher Pyne and Nick Xenophon - hence we are spending $50 billion on clockwork submarines from France

    Pathetic - but SA is a pathetic state
  • Re: Dual Citizenship A Barrier ?
    Quote: SA (like Tas) is a passenger state - anti-business and socialist to the core. It drags the rest of Australia down so if you live and work on one of the productive states (Qld, NSW, Vic, WA), you pay for the people in SA to live in fairy tale land. They only survive because of pork-barrel politicians like Christopher Pyne and Nick Xenophon - hence we are spending $50 billion on clockwork submarines from France

    Pathetic - but SA is a pathetic state
    We'll have to buy ready built subs before the new fleet are ready, it's a farce.
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    Quote: We'll have to buy ready built subs before the new fleet are ready, it's a farce.
    Spot on. We should be leasing/buying nuclear powered Virginia-class SSNs from the US. One third of the cost of the French clockwork subs and with 12 of them, nobody could f**k with us. Nobody

    The argument that we lack the nuclear infrastructure is bullshit. The USN forward bases Virginia-class boats in Guam and sends them back to San Diego for major servicing. Same could happen here - but alas it never will

    Politics and pork-barreling overcome national defence unfortunately
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    Quote: The argument that we lack the nuclear infrastructure is bullshit.
    Here here. While the world marches forward with nuclear power Australia is still messing with coal and some mythical thing called solar just to please the greens who screwed up the nuclear agenda in the first place.
  • Re: Dual Citizenship A Barrier ?
    Quote: Spot on. We should be leasing/buying nuclear powered Virginia-class SSNs from the US. One third of the cost of the French clockwork subs and with 12 of them, nobody could f**k with us. Nobody

    The argument that we lack the nuclear infrastructure is bullshit. The USN forward bases Virginia-class boats in Guam and sends them back to San Diego for major servicing. Same could happen here - but alas it never will

    Politics and pork-barreling overcome national defence unfortunately
    Christopher Piiiiiiine lol

    Knowing how tight the time constraints are I seriously think that they will end up buying second hand subs to tide us over. The alternative is to lose the whole sub fleet crews and the wealth of experience that goes with them.
    The project is expected to deliver the first sub in 2030 the expiration date of the Collins Class is 2030. Given that they first have to work out how to replace the advanced nuclear power plant with an archaic retrograde diesel electric I can't see the project staying on time.