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Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Old Jul 10th 2016, 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
Rats and sinking ships comes to mind, however the real reason, I suspect, is that they never expected to win, so hadn't thought of what they would have to do if it happened, so they resign and let someone else do the dirty work
It was all in aid of short term political gain with little awareness into actually achieving a win, let alone knowing how to proceed.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Is she genuinely right-wing? If so she would be an excellent choice

Although he was basically too liberal for my liking, Cameron was okay - and despite being basically left-wing, his government has been the most effective since Thatcher, going a long was to repairing the destruction, waste and massive debt left by the hateful socialist governments of Blair and Brown

As long as the new government keeps on with the policies of austerity, but harsher and deeper, continuing to cut debt and firing many more of their passengers, sorry, civil servants, they'll go a long way to saving their nation - and brexit will become less of an issue

Hearts must be hardened - and knives must be sharpened
Yep. Lets have jack boots on every corner with troops with arms to enforce the pacification of the plebs, prepared to kill at a whim.
How about a building boom in prisons across the land to keep the idle occupied then banged up if / when become untowardly.


A Franco type Spain. Or Pinochet Chile. I imagine you drooling at the thought.
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Old Jul 10th 2016, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Yep. Lets have jack boots on every corner with troops with arms to enforce the pacification of the plebs, prepared to kill at a whim.
How about a building boom in prisons across the land to keep the idle occupied then banged up if / when become untowardly.


A Franco type Spain. Or Pinochet Chile. I imagine you drooling at the thought.
Yep, that does give me a semi

Austerity is working for the UK and needs to be kept up and they have a shit load of passengers that still need firing - the rest of Europe (and Australia) should take note and copy
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
Not read all the thread so not sure if this has come up but seeing the recent discussions on employment, jobs etc one of the results of the falling pound is that things are now cheaper to manufacture in the UK and companies that were thinking of moving those jobs to other countries have had a quick re-think and left them where they are.
Imports are more expensive with a falling pound so if things are made from imported raw materials they will be more expensive to make. It was one of the warnings of the effects of a weaker pound (dismissed by Farage etc as scaremongering) that the cost of living will probably rise (so much of what is consumed is imported).

The theory is that the weaker pound will stimulate exports as things will be cheaper but the latest trade statistics for May, the leadup to the referendum, show that Britain has a growing trade deficit as import volumes are rising more quickly than export volumes. The other factor is that a weaker Europe means with half exports going there the predicted rising volumes due to cheapness (by Brexiters) is not expected to happen.
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Old Jul 10th 2016, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by OzTennis
Imports are more expensive with a falling pound so if things are made from imported raw materials they will be more expensive to make. It was one of the warnings of the effects of a weaker pound (dismissed by Farage etc as scaremongering) that the cost of living will probably rise (so much of what is consumed is imported).

The theory is that the weaker pound will stimulate exports as things will be cheaper but the latest trade statistics for May, the leadup to the referendum, show that Britain has a growing trade deficit as import volumes are rising more quickly than export volumes. The other factor is that a weaker Europe means with half exports going there the predicted rising volumes due to cheapness (by Brexiters) is not expected to happen.
Too early to tell champ

We'll have a clearer picture in 6 months time
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Old Jul 10th 2016, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
UK has made a mistake but now everyone there needs to work together to make a bright future outside the EU. They'll do it but there is still much pain to come
First of all any decision will be made on today's facts, not yesterday's false propaganda or even a referendum in which so many people were fed lies and mislead, only to see their idols self-destruct and admit that voters were duped.

So I wouldn't get too excited about Article 50 being invoked anytimmmmeeeee soon. In fact I don't think it will ever be invoked, and certainly not without another referendum.
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
The uncertain nature of the UK after exit will more likely influence than a seesawing pound. It would have been far cheaper to relocate to an East European company if it was purely on cost. Stability and an ability to plan with confidence being IMO the most important consideration.
Growth is the most important factor. No one, no share holder, no CEO, no employee, wants to earn the same year in year out.

Cheapness or Cost cutting is something that is done during a lean quarter or global downturn.

Thank goodness Automation is here to aid in growth rather than cost cutting.
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Old Jul 10th 2016, 10:25 am
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Originally Posted by astera
So I wouldn't get too excited about Article 50 being invoked anytimmmmeeeee soon. In fact I don't think it will ever be invoked, and certainly not without another referendum.
Way I look at it, no government should press the button until the major aspects of free trade, finance, etc. are agreed between the UK and the EU.

At the moment the control and power resides with the UK government. The moment they press the button, the control and power switches to the EU. It's daft to do so until you are sure they are not going to try to screw you over.

But the EU have been saying they won't negotiate till the button is pushed.

Nice try Junkers.


I get the feeling, providing the tories aren't tits, that the referendum will remain like a 'get out of jail free' card - to be employed when the EU starts doing a Titanic impression. Oh, and when it's pressed, no two years that's for certain, the UK has no reason to play footsie.
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Old Jul 10th 2016, 5:08 pm
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Originally Posted by Amazulu
Too early to tell champ

We'll have a clearer picture in 6 months time
A lot of ostriches here have their head in the sand and quote the line it's only been a day, a week, 2 weeks .... just wait and see. Yes, we will see.
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Originally Posted by OzTennis
A lot of ostriches here have their head in the sand and quote the line it's only been a day, a week, 2 weeks .... just wait and see. Yes, we will see.
Too early to tell champ

We'll have a clearer picture in 6 months time
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Too early to tell champ

We'll have a clearer picture in 6 months time
Yes, you said that already.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Fair enough but again, companies that are financially viable do not fold in less than 2 weeks - if they do then they were not viable on the first place
I'll reiterate again - it's nothing to do with being financially viable. Their suppliers will NOT supply them any longer, they have all pulled out of their contracts citing Brexit as the reason. It's a specialist artisan type product, and they can't simply get it elsewhere, so they have nothing to trade with. No point in keeping the company going when they can take orders until the cows come home but can't fulfil those orders!
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Leadsom pulls out of leadership contest; Tories to announce shortly which of the 3 possible options will be followed:

1 Just make Theresa May leader and PM
2 Call a new leadership contest and ask for nominations
3 Say Gove was 3rd and put him up against May

1 Seems the likely option.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 11:27 am
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More quitting?
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

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More quitting?
Yes, Gove stabs Boris in the back; Boris quits contest, Gove isn't picked for contest because he stabbed Boris and is uncharismatic (sorry about the pun); Leadsom picked to represent Brexiters; no experience and makes crass remarks about being better qualified than May because she's a mother, only has the support of 1/4 of Tory MP's so withdraws when she sees the writing on the wall and that she's out of her depth. Meanwhile Corbyn is not for quitting.
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