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Old Apr 1st 2008, 7:41 am
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Ok for those that don't live in WA, perthnow.com.au is the Sunday Times news website and boasts itself as "Western Australia's premier news, sport, entertainment and lifestyle site".

Yet this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...60-948,00.html

First the headling subheading: "Perth is second-fasted growing city" AND the subheading: "PERTH is Australia's second-fasted growing city". Once is permissible if they correct it quickly, twice within words of each other is unacceptable. And to STILL have it up even after people have posted comments about it is just embarrassing.

Next is this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...67-948,00.html

A woman has been found with serious head injuries that are likely life threatening. But according to this 'intelligent' publication, she was 'found bashed in her front yard'.

Anyone else find this sort of thing to be quite embarrassing? Especially given that WA hardly has a decent selection of media available for news information anyway, you would expect those which ARE available (even if they are dumbed-down tabloids on par with the red top crap peddled here in the UK) would at least ensure they have spelling errors corrected (and I've seen this many times on their site) or do something about their language used in articles - describing someone as 'bashed' is incredibly vague as the term can refer to an incident of assault, the injuries and can be both serious and minor.

But, hey, if it keeps the rednecks 'informed'...
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Originally Posted by marcpiano
Ok for those that don't live in WA, perthnow.com.au is the Sunday Times news website and boasts itself as "Western Australia's premier news, sport, entertainment and lifestyle site".

Yet this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...60-948,00.html

First the headling subheading: "Perth is second-fasted growing city" AND the subheading: "PERTH is Australia's second-fasted growing city". Once is permissible if they correct it quickly, twice within words of each other is unacceptable. And to STILL have it up even after people have posted comments about it is just embarrassing.

Next is this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...67-948,00.html

A woman has been found with serious head injuries that are likely life threatening. But according to this 'intelligent' publication, she was 'found bashed in her front yard'.

Anyone else find this sort of thing to be quite embarrassing? Especially given that WA hardly has a decent selection of media available for news information anyway, you would expect those which ARE available (even if they are dumbed-down tabloids on par with the red top crap peddled here in the UK) would at least ensure they have spelling errors corrected (and I've seen this many times on their site) or do something about their language used in articles - describing someone as 'bashed' is incredibly vague as the term can refer to an incident of assault, the injuries and can be both serious and minor.

But, hey, if it keeps the rednecks 'informed'...
Point taken in the first instance, but I feel your second point is somewhat misplaced. 'Bashed' is merely the way the Australians say 'beaten' or 'beaten up'. You are basing your views on the usage of the word in the United Kingdom.

All newspapers are guilty of typos - in fact on this site a guy blogs all such errors made in the highly respected British newspaper, The Guardian.

This one's quite ironic ...



What this has to do with 'rednecks' I don't know, but I think you should find a way of channeling the anger you feel ...

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Originally Posted by marcpiano
Ok for those that don't live in WA, perthnow.com.au is the Sunday Times news website and boasts itself as "Western Australia's premier news, sport, entertainment and lifestyle site".

Yet this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...60-948,00.html

First the headling subheading: "Perth is second-fasted growing city" AND the subheading: "PERTH is Australia's second-fasted growing city". Once is permissible if they correct it quickly, twice within words of each other is unacceptable. And to STILL have it up even after people have posted comments about it is just embarrassing.

Next is this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...67-948,00.html

A woman has been found with serious head injuries that are likely life threatening. But according to this 'intelligent' publication, she was 'found bashed in her front yard'.

Anyone else find this sort of thing to be quite embarrassing? Especially given that WA hardly has a decent selection of media available for news information anyway, you would expect those which ARE available (even if they are dumbed-down tabloids on par with the red top crap peddled here in the UK) would at least ensure they have spelling errors corrected (and I've seen this many times on their site) or do something about their language used in articles - describing someone as 'bashed' is incredibly vague as the term can refer to an incident of assault, the injuries and can be both serious and minor.

But, hey, if it keeps the rednecks 'informed'...
The WA Sunday Times is not a newspaper. It's lik a copy of Loot wrapped up in a Daily Mail.

I never buy it or visit their website.
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Yes it's atrocious. How shocking.

Check the Guardian and Independent for typos; the Guardian in particular, is famous for them. Even the Times does not escape.

Australia does not have tabloids; instead it simply has poor quality local papers. This is no big deal, because the nationals are far superior. You can't compare a West Australian equivalent of The Walsall Advertiser to something like The Age or Independent. Apples and oranges.

Hutch is dead right on the "bashed" issue.

You're making mountains out of molehills. But hey, whatever it takes to get you through the day.
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Originally Posted by marcpiano
Ok for those that don't live in WA, perthnow.com.au is the Sunday Times news website and boasts itself as "Western Australia's premier news, sport, entertainment and lifestyle site".

Yet this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...60-948,00.html

First the headling subheading: "Perth is second-fasted growing city" AND the subheading: "PERTH is Australia's second-fasted growing city". Once is permissible if they correct it quickly, twice within words of each other is unacceptable. And to STILL have it up even after people have posted comments about it is just embarrassing.

Next is this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...67-948,00.html

A woman has been found with serious head injuries that are likely life threatening. But according to this 'intelligent' publication, she was 'found bashed in her front yard'.

Anyone else find this sort of thing to be quite embarrassing? Especially given that WA hardly has a decent selection of media available for news information anyway, you would expect those which ARE available (even if they are dumbed-down tabloids on par with the red top crap peddled here in the UK) would at least ensure they have spelling errors corrected (and I've seen this many times on their site) or do something about their language used in articles - describing someone as 'bashed' is incredibly vague as the term can refer to an incident of assault, the injuries and can be both serious and minor.

But, hey, if it keeps the rednecks 'informed'...
Maybe Perth is the second city to have fasted !
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You've never read The Guardian or as they famously called it one day The Grauniad? Bashed has already been explained. I believe you're either heading back or have moved back to the UK, in which case why does this bother you unless you are making some sort of justification for your move?

Were it a real newspaper I might agree with you but it's not. I have more issues with the grammar and spelling on these forums but I don't let it worry me, there are people dying in their millions needlessly in the world - THAT worries me.
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You've never read The Guardian or as they famously called it one day The Grauniad? Bashed has already been explained. I believe you're either heading back or have moved back to the UK, in which case why does this bother you unless you are making some sort of justification for your move?

Were it a real newspaper I might agree with you but it's not. I have more issues with the grammar and spelling on these forums but I don't let it worry me, there are people dying in their millions needlessly in the world - THAT worries me.
The Guardian dropped this fantastic clanger in an article entitled "In praise of the subeditor" a few years ago:

Newspapers have found it difficulty to recruit subeditors over the last few years.
Ironically, it was accompanied by a photograph of the sub-editor proofreading the very article in question!
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Originally Posted by marcpiano
Ok for those that don't live in WA, perthnow.com.au is the Sunday Times news website and boasts itself as "Western Australia's premier news, sport, entertainment and lifestyle site".

Yet this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...60-948,00.html

First the headling subheading: "Perth is second-fasted growing city" AND the subheading: "PERTH is Australia's second-fasted growing city". Once is permissible if they correct it quickly, twice within words of each other is unacceptable. And to STILL have it up even after people have posted comments about it is just embarrassing.

Next is this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...67-948,00.html

A woman has been found with serious head injuries that are likely life threatening. But according to this 'intelligent' publication, she was 'found bashed in her front yard'.

Anyone else find this sort of thing to be quite embarrassing? Especially given that WA hardly has a decent selection of media available for news information anyway, you would expect those which ARE available (even if they are dumbed-down tabloids on par with the red top crap peddled here in the UK) would at least ensure they have spelling errors corrected (and I've seen this many times on their site) or do something about their language used in articles - describing someone as 'bashed' is incredibly vague as the term can refer to an incident of assault, the injuries and can be both serious and minor.

But, hey, if it keeps the rednecks 'informed'...
Why would I find a couple of typos embarrassing ? Maybe I would find my public lack of knowledge of Australian colloquialisms embarrassing tho Bashed is a very common term.
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You've never read The Guardian or as they famously called it one day The Grauniad? Bashed has already been explained. I believe you're either heading back or have moved back to the UK, in which case why does this bother you unless you are making some sort of justification for your move?

Were it a real newspaper I might agree with you but it's not. I have more issues with the grammar and spelling on these forums but I don't let it worry me, there are people dying in their millions needlessly in the world - THAT worries me.
Yup, totally agree with you on that, he could alternatively just watch the news on tv if the grammar is so unacceptable to him.

There are so many more important things in life.

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I find this quite disturbing, that posters are actually pointing out Typo's in two UK broadsheets and somehow drawing the implied conclusion that somehow these newspapers are somehow not a reliable source of information.

Typo's are not the issue, what is the issue is quality,honest, coherent and unbiased journalism, something which I am sure you will agree, we are bereft of in Australia. The commercial channels 7 9 and 10, along with the murdoch, Packer and Stokes legacy here in Oz have really dumbed down the journalist intent to info-tainment.


ABC and SBS are the only sources of Aussie Journalism that I look at, if I want to find out what is happening and I don't sweat the typos, I am more interested in the message.
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Originally Posted by deryans
I find this quite disturbing, that posters are actually pointing out Typo's in two UK broadsheets and somehow drawing the implied conclusion that somehow these newspapers are somehow not a reliable source of information.
I'd be disturbed too, if that's what people were doing. But nobody has said claimed that typoes that a newspaper is not a reliable source of information. Nobody has even hinted at such a thing.

Typo's are not the issue, what is the issue is quality,honest, coherent and unbiased journalism, something which I am sure you will agree, we are bereft of in Australia. The commercial channels 7 9 and 10, along with the murdoch, Packer and Stokes legacy here in Oz have really dumbed down the journalist intent to info-tainment.


ABC and SBS are the only sources of Aussie Journalism that I look at, if I want to find out what is happening and I don't sweat the typos, I am more interested in the message.
Agree.
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I think The Age is a good newspaper. It has a few typos now and again but then so do all good newspapers. It's as good as best of the UK papers.

ABC and SBS are good for TV news. News on 7, 9 and 10 is like local ITV news because these channels tend to be more - how do say it? - local.

I can well believe that the newspapers of Perth and Brisbane are a bit pony
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Originally Posted by deryans
The commercial channels 7 9 and 10, along with the murdoch, Packer and Stokes legacy here in Oz have really dumbed down the journalist intent to info-tainment.


ABC and SBS are the only sources of Aussie Journalism that I look at, if I want to find out what is happening and I don't sweat the typos, I am more interested in the message.
Surely the same can be said of commercial channels in the UK? Had I the choice of BBC1 or Channel 3,4 or 5 I would rather BBC. Here I watch Channel 9 Gold Coast news for local stuff and ABC for national and international. It's not complicated. It's not a national problem, it's a worldwide commercial problem. I think you'd be hard pressed to find decent quality news coverage on the millions of commercial channels in the US.
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Originally Posted by marcpiano
Ok for those that don't live in WA, perthnow.com.au is the Sunday Times news website and boasts itself as "Western Australia's premier news, sport, entertainment and lifestyle site".

Yet this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...60-948,00.html

First the headling subheading: "Perth is second-fasted growing city" AND the subheading: "PERTH is Australia's second-fasted growing city". Once is permissible if they correct it quickly, twice within words of each other is unacceptable. And to STILL have it up even after people have posted comments about it is just embarrassing.

Next is this story: http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...67-948,00.html

A woman has been found with serious head injuries that are likely life threatening. But according to this 'intelligent' publication, she was 'found bashed in her front yard'.

Anyone else find this sort of thing to be quite embarrassing? Especially given that WA hardly has a decent selection of media available for news information anyway, you would expect those which ARE available (even if they are dumbed-down tabloids on par with the red top crap peddled here in the UK) would at least ensure they have spelling errors corrected (and I've seen this many times on their site) or do something about their language used in articles - describing someone as 'bashed' is incredibly vague as the term can refer to an incident of assault, the injuries and can be both serious and minor.

But, hey, if it keeps the rednecks 'informed'...
The Sunday Times is a rag not a newspaper.

I like typos,some of them are so funny.



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I used to like Channel 4 news. BBC went through a bit of a ropey period but did improve before I left. They still make a few humdingers from time to time.

Loved Huw Edwards. Laughed out loud when I heard that the BBC got lots of complaints, when he first started, from people complaining about a Welsh man fronting up the English news
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