Your country needs you
May 6th 2003, 6:25 pm
#31
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Originally posted by Slippers
You are no hypocrite on this. As we agreed, nowhere stays the same and so it is not the same somewhere that you go back to.
I have found Johnson's "when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life, for in London there is all that life can afford" to be so true it is embarrassing. As I have said elsewhere, my reasons for going to NZ are more complicated than mere personal desire, but boy do you not know what you have got until you haven't got it.
Enjoy your unemployment and I hope you make the right decision for you. You seem open minded and thoughtful to me and I would prefer that more people like that stayed in London than left cos I expect to live there again one day.
Slippers
You are no hypocrite on this. As we agreed, nowhere stays the same and so it is not the same somewhere that you go back to.
I have found Johnson's "when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life, for in London there is all that life can afford" to be so true it is embarrassing. As I have said elsewhere, my reasons for going to NZ are more complicated than mere personal desire, but boy do you not know what you have got until you haven't got it.
Enjoy your unemployment and I hope you make the right decision for you. You seem open minded and thoughtful to me and I would prefer that more people like that stayed in London than left cos I expect to live there again one day.
Slippers
Didn't Dorothy say something along the same lines?
I'm sorry it hasn't worked out for you Slippers. I hope you do find happiness when you return.
Hot milk and a boring book work wonders for people who can't sleep!
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May 7th 2003, 12:53 am
#32
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Originally posted by karen and andy
I don't think that we can possibly work any more hours than we do now.
My hubby worked friday 7am-4pm, had a call from work and went back in 8pm-4am.
He also worked 7 days a week 80+ hours per week for the 6 months leading up to xmas. Senior management were so impressed by this that they asked him to work xmas day and the 4 day break, when he refused, Their reply ,you have no f****** commitment.
Plus i also run my own business whilst bringing up 2 children.
Things have changed in the uk, but you can change this with allyour positive attitudes when you come back.
When we are at work we can't spend the whole day on the computer. As most companies now log and track internet traffic.
Plus we don't have time!
So you may say i'm a dreamer but i not the only one!
Cheers
Karen
I don't think that we can possibly work any more hours than we do now.
My hubby worked friday 7am-4pm, had a call from work and went back in 8pm-4am.
He also worked 7 days a week 80+ hours per week for the 6 months leading up to xmas. Senior management were so impressed by this that they asked him to work xmas day and the 4 day break, when he refused, Their reply ,you have no f****** commitment.
Plus i also run my own business whilst bringing up 2 children.
Things have changed in the uk, but you can change this with allyour positive attitudes when you come back.
When we are at work we can't spend the whole day on the computer. As most companies now log and track internet traffic.
Plus we don't have time!
So you may say i'm a dreamer but i not the only one!
Cheers
Karen
You will not be laying on a beach all day here either my first job here required a 12 hour day 6 days a week plus a half day on Sunday .
Even in this job I have had to put in upto 14 hours a day until the roof fell in , so now I can bugger about like the rest of the near do wells employed in this sinking ship.
May 7th 2003, 12:57 am
#33
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Originally posted by rainingagain
I find it ironic that people returning to the UK are dreamers and forget about all of it's MANY problems.
I find it ironic that people returning to the UK are dreamers and forget about all of it's MANY problems.
May 7th 2003, 1:00 am
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Originally posted by Roger
Whilst William Blake spoke about building Jerusalem in Britains pleasant land, he never thought that Britain was becoming to look more like Jerusalem with its ethnic mix and racial problems. Could be one of the reasons I'm going. At least I'll be understood at work in NZ.
Whilst William Blake spoke about building Jerusalem in Britains pleasant land, he never thought that Britain was becoming to look more like Jerusalem with its ethnic mix and racial problems. Could be one of the reasons I'm going. At least I'll be understood at work in NZ.
Australia has no racial problems get real , you Sir are a prat .
Forget its ethic mix which is far more varied than the UK , its got loads of problems start with the Abos and work up.
May 7th 2003, 1:02 am
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Re: Your country needs you
Originally posted by CROSSY
Were you not a deluded dreamer, seeking the holy grail? Did you not go in search of good weather and beaches, did you not think life will be better when we get to oz??? Be honest now.
Were you not a deluded dreamer, seeking the holy grail? Did you not go in search of good weather and beaches, did you not think life will be better when we get to oz??? Be honest now.
May 7th 2003, 4:07 am
#36
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Originally posted by AndrewR
er ....where have I done that? As it happens i like vancouver/canada, and I don't comment directly on NZ/OZ because I don't live there.
(whoo-hoo...150 posts!)
er ....where have I done that? As it happens i like vancouver/canada, and I don't comment directly on NZ/OZ because I don't live there.
(whoo-hoo...150 posts!)
It goes against my better nature to get involved in these slanging matches but what the hell here goes.
As you live/have lived in Canada and have gone back/are going back to the UK, I feel you are posting on the wrong forum. I suggest that you limit your posts to The Lounge, Moving Back To The UK or the Canadian boards, as by your own admittance you have no experience to share/questions to ask on the Austraila & New Zealand Lifestyle & Culture or Immigration forums.
I am sure your experiences of migration are both useful and valid, in particular to people who are considering Canada as a future home, but none of the people on this forum are.
Paula
May 7th 2003, 4:13 am
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Originally posted by Watt Dabney
It goes against my better nature to get involved in these slanging matches but what the hell here goes.
As you live/have lived in Canada and have gone back/are going back to the UK, I feel you are posting on the wrong forum. I suggest that you limit your posts to The Lounge, Moving Back To The UK or the Canadian boards, as by your own admittance you have no experience to share/questions to ask on the Austraila & New Zealand Lifestyle & Culture or Immigration forums.
I am sure your experiences of migration are both useful and valid, in particular to people who are considering Canada as a future home, but none of the people on this forum are.
Paula
It goes against my better nature to get involved in these slanging matches but what the hell here goes.
As you live/have lived in Canada and have gone back/are going back to the UK, I feel you are posting on the wrong forum. I suggest that you limit your posts to The Lounge, Moving Back To The UK or the Canadian boards, as by your own admittance you have no experience to share/questions to ask on the Austraila & New Zealand Lifestyle & Culture or Immigration forums.
I am sure your experiences of migration are both useful and valid, in particular to people who are considering Canada as a future home, but none of the people on this forum are.
Paula
Slippers
May 7th 2003, 4:32 am
#38
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Originally posted by Slippers
What is your take on NZ so far Paula?
Slippers
What is your take on NZ so far Paula?
Slippers
So far my family and I really love NZ. Our move has not been without its problems but we knew it wasn't going to be all plain sailing. NZ as a country is not perfect but where is? To enjoy the benifits of a country with such a small population you have to acknowledge the drawbacks it can have too, but such is life there is no such thing as a free lunch. I have to say that I have not been in the slightest bit homesick, I have had family visit already Mum, Dad, Step-mum, brother and sister-in-law, it was nice to see them but can honestly say I did not shed a single tear when they left. Our children have settled without any problems, we have made lots of new friends and really feel part of a lovely community in our little town. Money wise we are just as skint here as we were in the UK and my husband works the same amount of hours but we did not expect any different. We live in a much nicer house than we would ever have been able to afford in the UK and we are all alot less stressed (including the kids).
Paula
May 7th 2003, 4:44 am
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Originally posted by Watt Dabney
So far my family and I really love NZ. Our move has not been without its problems but we knew it wasn't going to be all plain sailing. NZ as a country is not perfect but where is? To enjoy the benifits of a country with such a small population you have to acknowledge the drawbacks it can have too, but such is life there is no such thing as a free lunch. I have to say that I have not been in the slightest bit homesick, I have had family visit already Mum, Dad, Step-mum, brother and sister-in-law, it was nice to see them but can honestly say I did not shed a single tear when they left. Our children have settled without any problems, we have made lots of new friends and really feel part of a lovely community in our little town. Money wise we are just as skint here as we were in the UK and my husband works the same amount of hours but we did not expect any different. We live in a much nicer house than we would ever have been able to afford in the UK and we are all alot less stressed (including the kids).
Paula
So far my family and I really love NZ. Our move has not been without its problems but we knew it wasn't going to be all plain sailing. NZ as a country is not perfect but where is? To enjoy the benifits of a country with such a small population you have to acknowledge the drawbacks it can have too, but such is life there is no such thing as a free lunch. I have to say that I have not been in the slightest bit homesick, I have had family visit already Mum, Dad, Step-mum, brother and sister-in-law, it was nice to see them but can honestly say I did not shed a single tear when they left. Our children have settled without any problems, we have made lots of new friends and really feel part of a lovely community in our little town. Money wise we are just as skint here as we were in the UK and my husband works the same amount of hours but we did not expect any different. We live in a much nicer house than we would ever have been able to afford in the UK and we are all alot less stressed (including the kids).
Paula
Slippers
May 7th 2003, 5:03 am
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Originally posted by Watt Dabney
It goes against my better nature to get involved in these slanging matches but what the hell here goes.
As you live/have lived in Canada and have gone back/are going back to the UK, I feel you are posting on the wrong forum. I suggest that you limit your posts to The Lounge, Moving Back To The UK or the Canadian boards, as by your own admittance you have no experience to share/questions to ask on the Austraila & New Zealand Lifestyle & Culture or Immigration forums.
I am sure your experiences of migration are both useful and valid, in particular to people who are considering Canada as a future home, but none of the people on this forum are.
Paula
It goes against my better nature to get involved in these slanging matches but what the hell here goes.
As you live/have lived in Canada and have gone back/are going back to the UK, I feel you are posting on the wrong forum. I suggest that you limit your posts to The Lounge, Moving Back To The UK or the Canadian boards, as by your own admittance you have no experience to share/questions to ask on the Austraila & New Zealand Lifestyle & Culture or Immigration forums.
I am sure your experiences of migration are both useful and valid, in particular to people who are considering Canada as a future home, but none of the people on this forum are.
Paula
I appreciate what you're saying, and I don't want to get into a slanging match here, but I would like to point out a couple of things....
first, I think some immigration/emigration experiences are universal...home-sickness for example, so thats fair comment.
second....I have to say I don't think i'm alone here. There are quite a few people who post on forums that aren't directly related to their experience, including a few canuck/brits who post here..possibly simply because this forum is alot more exciting to read than the 'Canada' section!
As I said, this really isn't to get into a slanging match
Andrew
ps have a sister in Auckland, so what I hear from her I will post here....consider that fair comment
May 7th 2003, 5:14 am
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Originally posted by AndrewR
Hello,
I appreciate what you're saying, and I don't want to get into a slanging match here, but I would like to point out a couple of things....
first, I think some immigration/emigration experiences are universal...home-sickness for example, so thats fair comment.
second....I have to say I don't think i'm alone here. There are quite a few people who post on forums that aren't directly related to their experience, including a few canuck/brits who post here..possibly simply because this forum is alot more exciting to read than the 'Canada' section!
As I said, this really isn't to get into a slanging match
Andrew
ps have a sister in Auckland, so what I hear from her I will post here....consider that fair comment
Hello,
I appreciate what you're saying, and I don't want to get into a slanging match here, but I would like to point out a couple of things....
first, I think some immigration/emigration experiences are universal...home-sickness for example, so thats fair comment.
second....I have to say I don't think i'm alone here. There are quite a few people who post on forums that aren't directly related to their experience, including a few canuck/brits who post here..possibly simply because this forum is alot more exciting to read than the 'Canada' section!
As I said, this really isn't to get into a slanging match
Andrew
ps have a sister in Auckland, so what I hear from her I will post here....consider that fair comment
As one of the few here who talk about NZ, hope you keep posting AndrewR. Agree about the other sections - the dates on some of the posts make you feel like you have stumbled into some kind of dust-encrusted egyptian tomb last opened when King Tut was laid to rest.
Slippers
May 7th 2003, 8:31 am
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Originally posted by Slippers
As one of the few here who talk about NZ, hope you keep posting AndrewR. Agree about the other sections - the dates on some of the posts make you feel like you have stumbled into some kind of dust-encrusted egyptian tomb last opened when King Tut was laid to rest.
Slippers
As one of the few here who talk about NZ, hope you keep posting AndrewR. Agree about the other sections - the dates on some of the posts make you feel like you have stumbled into some kind of dust-encrusted egyptian tomb last opened when King Tut was laid to rest.
Slippers
I used to enjoy posting more frequently about my experiences in NZ but got really fed up with having to justify my comments. I speak as i find, and at the moment I find that we are enjoying NZ. Some people just had to pick fault with that and so I don't bother as much anymore.
Paula
May 8th 2003, 10:03 am
#43
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Originally posted by Watt Dabney
I used to enjoy posting more frequently about my experiences in NZ but got really fed up with having to justify my comments. I speak as i find, and at the moment I find that we are enjoying NZ. Some people just had to pick fault with that and so I don't bother as much anymore.
Paula
I used to enjoy posting more frequently about my experiences in NZ but got really fed up with having to justify my comments. I speak as i find, and at the moment I find that we are enjoying NZ. Some people just had to pick fault with that and so I don't bother as much anymore.
Paula
And I for one am sorry that you don't!! i 'm sure i speak for many on here that have found your posts honest and very helpful in the past but i understand toally that it is gettting harder to just say what you think on here without feeling nervous that you will come back later to find you have been slated off for giving your opinion!! A shame really, but please don't let that stop you!! Most of us are really grateful!!
May 8th 2003, 10:26 am
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I used to enjoy posting more frequently about my experiences in NZ but got really fed up with having to justify my comments. I speak as i find, and at the moment I find that we are enjoying NZ. Some people just had to pick fault with that and so I don't bother as much anymore.
Paula
May 8th 2003, 8:36 pm
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Originally posted by sashimi
I agree with Jajpe, it's a pity if you're put off writing, I find reading about people's experences very interesting. On the other hand, I can also understand you getting tired of having to justify liking it. What I don't understand is, if somebody doesn't like it, have made bad experiences or whatever, why can't they just write about that without having to put down the ones who like it?
I agree with Jajpe, it's a pity if you're put off writing, I find reading about people's experences very interesting. On the other hand, I can also understand you getting tired of having to justify liking it. What I don't understand is, if somebody doesn't like it, have made bad experiences or whatever, why can't they just write about that without having to put down the ones who like it?
Sashimi, Shirley awww thanks guys.
I do feel guilty sometimes for not posting esp to the friends I have made on this board, but I do check the board everyday and lately have been doing more PM's and going in the chat room. Also mind you the more we settle in here the harder it is to find the time.
Confession time Shirley, that stuff I have got for you is still in an envelope in my bag, I WILL POST IT TODAY I PROMISE!
Thanks guys, and for those who don't know me:-
We have been in NZ for 6mths and love it. I don't really want to debate/argue over why we love it or wether we should. I don't need enlightening or help to remove any rosy specs people think I may be wearing. We just love it here and if we stop loving it I will let you know!:lecture:
Paula
