Why do people say it's "bland"..?
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by G'Day
Sorry Ceri, didn't mean to imply that your gorgeous dragoness is the cat's mother. Really I realise now reading it that it sounds rude, so really I apologize.
As for asking ABCDiamond I am asking the opinion of someone who is neither homesick nor using their Australian passport as a tablestop, so I was just wondering how someone a little more pro-Aus feels about a place I've never been to.
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As for asking ABCDiamond I am asking the opinion of someone who is neither homesick nor using their Australian passport as a tablestop, so I was just wondering how someone a little more pro-Aus feels about a place I've never been to.
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You'll have to ask him, but I don't think he has one, or he is applying for one now something like that.
12 years?
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by G'Day
Very interesting! How do you like Brissie ABCDiamond? Is it as boring as Ceri claims or is it just she?
Different areas will get different responses, from different people. Its almost impossible to say if anyone person will like a certain area, but I can say that a lot of the people who have arrived in the Bayside seem to like it here. They don't seem to post as much these days, even on the Bayside site. But we bump into them at various places, eg: Wet'n'wild yesterday
I've lived in the Bayside for 2yrs 2 months, with 2 years in Sydney immediately before that, and 4 years in Kent UK before that, and 10 years in Sydney before that, and of course some years in the UK before I first migrated
I'm now settled at last (Yep, I like it here)
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by ShozInOz
I agree with you entirely. I just ask that people try to achieve some kind of balance in thier posts. Of course people want to hear about positive experiences, but that is very different to and more useful than very generalised and patently untrue statements about Australia being the best country in the world etc. It has pro's and con's, and it just depends how they all stack up.
As for non-Brits, or (more importantly) non-ex-pats on here... I just say take them with a very large portion of salt. They are coming from an *entirely* different position, and often are just provocative/inflamatory (or try to be, in fact they are hilarious). For instance, Wombat's views come from a self-confessed background of never having visited Europe, never mind never having lived there!!! (And I really don't get WHY a non-Brit or non-ex-pat would be on a British Expats forum! Quite bizarre! I am open to explanation. Answers on a post-card please)
As for non-Brits, or (more importantly) non-ex-pats on here... I just say take them with a very large portion of salt. They are coming from an *entirely* different position, and often are just provocative/inflamatory (or try to be, in fact they are hilarious). For instance, Wombat's views come from a self-confessed background of never having visited Europe, never mind never having lived there!!! (And I really don't get WHY a non-Brit or non-ex-pat would be on a British Expats forum! Quite bizarre! I am open to explanation. Answers on a post-card please)
I do understand where you are coming from. I for one try to stay out of any discussion about anywhere in the world where I have not been to for at least a few months. I don't believe I am qualified to answer any questions about a place unless I've actually lived there.
Originally Posted by Ceri
I don't think he can use his aussie passport as table prop, dare I say it - not everyone is so lucky to have such a fine prop ( ! here another smiley joke!!!) .
You'll have to ask him, but I don't think he has one, or he is applying for one now something like that.
12 years?
You'll have to ask him, but I don't think he has one, or he is applying for one now something like that.
12 years?
I am working on getting atable prop of mine own one of these days.
What's with the 12 years? Care to elaborate?
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by G'Day
Ceri
I am working on getting atable prop of mine own one of these days.
What's with the 12 years? Care to elaborate?
Mind you I don't understand many things
oh well, I'm off into the wilds of a lovely mining town tomorrow for a few days - you don't want to know!!!...
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by Ceri
I meant to say 14. I don't understand, why anyone after 14 years has not got citizenship if they love the place - it only takes two years of being PR.
Mind you I don't understand many things
oh well, I'm off into the wilds of a lovely mining town tomorrow for a few days - you don't want to know!!!...
Mind you I don't understand many things
oh well, I'm off into the wilds of a lovely mining town tomorrow for a few days - you don't want to know!!!...
Which mining town are you off to? I've got a cousin who recently came over out in one of those. Can't remember the name now but it was hot as hell. Have fun.
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by G'Day
Geez, 14 years! I've only been here for almost 2 and I'm chomping at the bit to add another passport to my collection. Bet I don't have as many as you do though
Which mining town are you off to? I've got a cousin who recently came over out in one of those. Can't remember the name now but it was hot as hell. Have fun.
Which mining town are you off to? I've got a cousin who recently came over out in one of those. Can't remember the name now but it was hot as hell. Have fun.
Mount Isa again , it's work related - flying :scared:, I want to drive, I want to drive!!! - I can't stand the flying tin cans
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by Ceri
I meant to say 14. I don't understand, why anyone after 14 years has not got citizenship if they love the place - it only takes two years of being PR.
Mind you I don't understand many things
Mind you I don't understand many things
But now I just need to get around to filling those forms in for Citizenship
I'm just like the Car mechanic who never gets round to doing his own car, or the Decorator who never does his own house. I've done paperwork all my life, and yet can't get around to filling in this form. !!
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
[QUOTE=ABCDiamond]It took me a long time to find an area that I love And until I liked it, I wasn't going to become a citizen, it just didnt seem right to me.
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I'm the opposite - I just thought it was sensible to get it, if not for me ( I don't want it, it means nothing to me), it's for any future kids who wish to B8gger off for a few years - or I kick out
ie not burning bridges in other words
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I'm the opposite - I just thought it was sensible to get it, if not for me ( I don't want it, it means nothing to me), it's for any future kids who wish to B8gger off for a few years - or I kick out
ie not burning bridges in other words
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by Ceri
not me 14 years - I've been here about 8 years.
Mount Isa again , it's work related - flying :scared:, I want to drive, I want to drive!!! - I can't stand the flying tin cans
Mount Isa again , it's work related - flying :scared:, I want to drive, I want to drive!!! - I can't stand the flying tin cans
ABCDiamond, glad to hear you've finally settled. Do your children like it there?
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Originally Posted by Lathlain
Perth
Country of Origin
Australian born 50%
Born Overseas - Top 5
United Kingdom 42%
New Zealand 3%
South Africa 3%
Viet Nam 1%
Germany 1%
Is this true? The smeg it is!
Country of Origin
Australian born 50%
Born Overseas - Top 5
United Kingdom 42%
New Zealand 3%
South Africa 3%
Viet Nam 1%
Germany 1%
Is this true? The smeg it is!
Perth
Country of Origin
Australian born 63%
Born Overseas - Top 5
United Kingdom 12%
New Zealand 2%
Italy 2%
Malaysia 1%
South Africa 1%
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
[QUOTE=G'Day] If you meet a cheeky red-haired Englishman named Mark that's him. Just slap him down & tell him to sit still. He needs a bit of rough handling at times.
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with pleasure , as long he is not a big bloke lol
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with pleasure , as long he is not a big bloke lol
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by Ceri
I'm the opposite - I just thought it was sensible to get it, if not for me ( I don't want it, it means nothing to me), it's for any future kids who wish to B8gger off for a few years - or I kick out
Originally Posted by G'Day
ABCDiamond, glad to hear you've finally settled. Do your children like it there?
I'll be taking her either this year or next, for a look around.
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
[QUOTE=Ceri]
Tiny little guy who believes women should be behind the stove in the kitchen, pref pregnant & barefoot. Just the kind of guy I like to slap around from time to time. After my cousin landed in Perth & he was getting ready to go to Mt Isa to check out the job I suggested she and the children come to visit me in Melb for a while until he got everything there sorted out, after all he'd been away for months at a time in Nigeria so he's used to being away from his family, right? But they've never been away from home & I haven't seen the boys since they were babies. When this was put to him I could hear him rudely telling her in the background that her place was with him & she wasn't galavanting off to Melbourne but would stay put until he sent for her! :scared: Problem is I'm too liberal by half for most of the men on my father's side of the fence
So what do you do for the mines?
Originally Posted by G'Day
If you meet a cheeky red-haired Englishman named Mark that's him. Just slap him down & tell him to sit still. He needs a bit of rough handling at times.
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with pleasure , as long he is not a big bloke lol
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with pleasure , as long he is not a big bloke lol
So what do you do for the mines?
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
My daughter (8yrs old) already holds both British and Australian Passports.
She loves it, but hardly remembers the UK now. The old photos keep her amused, walking in the snow, with her "space suit" type thing on, past the terraced houses that we lived in. She does want to see one of those, as she can't believe our wardrobe here is bigger than her bedroom was in the UK
I'll be taking her either this year or next, for a look around.
She loves it, but hardly remembers the UK now. The old photos keep her amused, walking in the snow, with her "space suit" type thing on, past the terraced houses that we lived in. She does want to see one of those, as she can't believe our wardrobe here is bigger than her bedroom was in the UK
I'll be taking her either this year or next, for a look around.
He might go and work in the UK but I doubt he'd stay, he loves the sun too much.
I've got pics of them all building snow men, but since we have the snowfields just here they don't miss it too much, besides which you can drive home from this snow and come back to the green country within an hour, it's all so different!
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Re: Why do people say it's "bland"..?
Originally Posted by G'Day
I don't know what the go is but from what I'm reading here you'd forgive me if I got the idea that only countrified gentlefold were immigrating from the UK to Australia. I certainly get that impression when I read disparaging remarks about subburbia - didn't you all live in boring old subburbs in the UK? Or were they all spiced up with grafitti? All interesting and fantastic?
I think what they mean, Sophie Louise, is that you get "bland boring" sunshine most days over here with the occational bit of "weather", unlike bland boring rain and grey skies back in the UK. Also here you get "bland, boring" brick, wood and other types of houses on decent properties as opposed to the ever-popular bland, boring upstairs-downstairs-with-a-yard-you-can't-swing-a-cat-in of the good old UK. Then there is the "bland, boring" food. Choices vary between the "bland, boring" Japanese cuisine, Thai cuisine, Chinese cuisines, American cuisine, French cuisine, Aussie cuisine and the ever popular, never boring meat-and-two-vegs or fish-'n-chips from the good old UK. God-forbid that we should be expected to venture into anything as "boring" as a stylish night club or bar to drink anything new or different from the "ussual"! No give us a good old boring stuffy pub with the same-old-same-old, just like good old England.
I think anyone who complains that Australia is bland or boring whilst in the same breath whinging about there not being any decent pubs around is an unimaginative idiot.
Australia is a facinating country that combines within it's states the weather and pleasures of Bali, the weather, wine and pleasures of Cape Town, or the Med, the joys and glories of deserts accross the globe, and it even has Perth, which doesn't really fit in anywhere but is probably as close as you'll ever get to a major city posing as a small town in your life. We have country towns that are honest to gosh country towns, farms so vast they bring the cattle in with choppers, underground cities in Coober Pedy. Very few other countries have the diversity in people and climate that Australia offers. It has amazing architecture and art, many musicians and artists have made it their home and wouldn't be anywhere else.
I don't know what the go is with scrapbooking, since I've never come into contact with it in two years of roaming the place so all I can guess is that it was posted by someone without an ounce of appreciation for other people's hobbies in their soul, who happen to have been in the position of meeting someone who does this for a hobby. I didn't know it was a group-thing but who knows....
It is what you make of it, but it certainly has a hell of a lot of potential to start with. Certainly it doesn't have huge mountain ranges, but the Grampians & Blue Mountains are plenty beautiful for those who care to get out of the pub and out into life.
I think what they mean, Sophie Louise, is that you get "bland boring" sunshine most days over here with the occational bit of "weather", unlike bland boring rain and grey skies back in the UK. Also here you get "bland, boring" brick, wood and other types of houses on decent properties as opposed to the ever-popular bland, boring upstairs-downstairs-with-a-yard-you-can't-swing-a-cat-in of the good old UK. Then there is the "bland, boring" food. Choices vary between the "bland, boring" Japanese cuisine, Thai cuisine, Chinese cuisines, American cuisine, French cuisine, Aussie cuisine and the ever popular, never boring meat-and-two-vegs or fish-'n-chips from the good old UK. God-forbid that we should be expected to venture into anything as "boring" as a stylish night club or bar to drink anything new or different from the "ussual"! No give us a good old boring stuffy pub with the same-old-same-old, just like good old England.
I think anyone who complains that Australia is bland or boring whilst in the same breath whinging about there not being any decent pubs around is an unimaginative idiot.
Australia is a facinating country that combines within it's states the weather and pleasures of Bali, the weather, wine and pleasures of Cape Town, or the Med, the joys and glories of deserts accross the globe, and it even has Perth, which doesn't really fit in anywhere but is probably as close as you'll ever get to a major city posing as a small town in your life. We have country towns that are honest to gosh country towns, farms so vast they bring the cattle in with choppers, underground cities in Coober Pedy. Very few other countries have the diversity in people and climate that Australia offers. It has amazing architecture and art, many musicians and artists have made it their home and wouldn't be anywhere else.
I don't know what the go is with scrapbooking, since I've never come into contact with it in two years of roaming the place so all I can guess is that it was posted by someone without an ounce of appreciation for other people's hobbies in their soul, who happen to have been in the position of meeting someone who does this for a hobby. I didn't know it was a group-thing but who knows....
It is what you make of it, but it certainly has a hell of a lot of potential to start with. Certainly it doesn't have huge mountain ranges, but the Grampians & Blue Mountains are plenty beautiful for those who care to get out of the pub and out into life.
But now I think about it, the endless rows of grey, dirty terraced or even 1930s semi are also extremely bland and there is less room. So, it would all depend on the area. If that 1930 semi or terraced house was in Islington or a fancy suburb maybe you would love it - but that is beyond many people's means.
To answer your question G'Day, the reason I think so many migrants are happy to live in bland estates is because, they are better than where they have come from. To some though, the novelty just wears off; why we avoided them big time.
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