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Old Dec 8th 2012, 12:52 pm
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Hi , I would like to know what the 2.5 rule of thumb means when you are discussing wages in Australia verses uk.
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It means that the cost of living in Australia is such that most people find you need to use an exchange rate of A$2.5 = £1 when comparing salaries to have an equivalent lifestyle in Australia to that in the UK.

For example, say you earned £50,000 per annum in the UK. At the current exchange rate of ~A$1.6, that is equivalent to A$80,000. However for equivalent buying power you would need a salary of A$125,000 (or at least somewhere between A$115,000 and $125,000 in most people's experience).
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It means that the cost of living in Australia is such that most people find you need to use an exchange rate of A$2.5 = £1 when comparing salaries to have an equivalent lifestyle in Australia to that in the UK.

For example, say you earned £50,000 per annum in the UK. At the current exchange rate of ~A$1.6, that is equivalent to A$80,000. However for equivalent buying power you would need a salary of A$125,000 (or at least somewhere between A$115,000 and $125,000 in most people's experience).
sorry i don't agree the differential in costs and potential income is so wide across Australia your better of looking at your own set of conditions and then working out how much will i need, just going uk x 2.5 i`l be right is a sure way of getting it wrong

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where will you live - look at rentals / houses in that area, try http://www.realestate.com.au/rent

job / income will vary from city to city

etc etc etc
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this rule of thumb is bullshit imo
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sorry i don't agree the differential in costs and potential income is so wide across Australia your better of looking at your own set of conditions and then working out how much will i need, just going uk x 2.5 i`l be right is a sure way of getting it wrong
I think it is a good rule of thumb, people confirm it works for them over nd over again. Obviously there are some local factors to consider.

With rents being so high here in Sydney, sometimes I think that it is best to isolate the accommodation costs and then compare the remaining living costs using a 2.5 rule of thumb.
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Hi , I would like to know what the 2.5 rule of thumb means when you are discussing wages in Australia verses uk.
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Hi , I would like to know what the 2.5 rule of thumb means when you are discussing wages in Australia verses uk.
Hi there and welcome to the forum.

You will get mixed anwers to this question, as you can see! There is no strict or fixed answer but what it does indicate is that you need to be way over the current exchange rate in order to do some rough calculations.

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this rule of thumb is bullshit imo
Yup, totally agree.
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if money and "history/culture" are your object and don't want risks or the non-quantifiable positives (eg weather, open spaces) - stay where you are.
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Here's my rule of thumb - you need to earn as much as possible because Australia has become crazy expensive in the 10 years I've been here. Specially Perth.
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Here's my rule of thumb - you need to earn as much as possible because Australia has become crazy expensive in the 10 years I've been here. Specially Perth.
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Same in Brisbane
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Personally, I think I has some merit as a very rough guide. Certainly better than someone using the exchange rate. Obviously it varies a lot on circumstances, for example, for us, it is closer to x3.5.
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There will never be agreement about the cost of living. But I think a rule of thumb certainly has a place for those trying to agree a salary package from afar. Someone taking a proposed AUD salary and dividing it by the exchange rate and saying, 'but that's £xx,xxx' may be doing themselves a disservice and may be getting duped by a potential employer.

80,000 / 1.55 might equal over (£)51,000 and that might look favourable compared to a current salary...but it doesn't mean that $80,000 is even close to the going rate for the job. I think this is an area where direct ex rate calculations should be avoided.
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I reckon x9 is about right
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