UK family allowance
Jun 15th 2007, 11:51 am
#17
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Re: UK family allowance
I know where you're coming from there. I could never be a fraudster as I'd never get any sleep!
On a serious note though I don't think that carrying on claiming Child Benefit whilst in Oz on a 457 can be considered in the same category as the scenario described earlier of the couple fraudulently claiming all the benefits under the sun. Remember those on a 457 cannot claim anything from Australia and indeed Australia considers them to still be residents of the UK.
On a serious note though I don't think that carrying on claiming Child Benefit whilst in Oz on a 457 can be considered in the same category as the scenario described earlier of the couple fraudulently claiming all the benefits under the sun. Remember those on a 457 cannot claim anything from Australia and indeed Australia considers them to still be residents of the UK.
Last edited by yanH; Jun 15th 2007 at 11:54 am.
Jun 15th 2007, 11:59 am
#18
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Re: UK family allowance
I know where you're coming from there. I could never be a fraudster as I'd never get any sleep!
On a serious note though I don't think that carrying on claiming Child Benefit whilst in Oz on a 457 can be considered in the same category as the scenario described earlier of the couple fraudulently claiming all the benefits under the sun. Remember those on a 457 cannot claim anything from Australia and indeed Australia considers them to still be residents of the UK.
On a serious note though I don't think that carrying on claiming Child Benefit whilst in Oz on a 457 can be considered in the same category as the scenario described earlier of the couple fraudulently claiming all the benefits under the sun. Remember those on a 457 cannot claim anything from Australia and indeed Australia considers them to still be residents of the UK.
Jun 15th 2007, 12:12 pm
#19
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Re: UK family allowance
I know where you're coming from there. I could never be a fraudster as I'd never get any sleep!
On a serious note though I don't think that carrying on claiming Child Benefit whilst in Oz on a 457 can be considered in the same category as the scenario described earlier of the couple fraudulently claiming all the benefits under the sun. Remember those on a 457 cannot claim anything from Australia and indeed Australia considers them to still be residents of the UK.
On a serious note though I don't think that carrying on claiming Child Benefit whilst in Oz on a 457 can be considered in the same category as the scenario described earlier of the couple fraudulently claiming all the benefits under the sun. Remember those on a 457 cannot claim anything from Australia and indeed Australia considers them to still be residents of the UK.
I'm not judging anyone on this thread but I've always been of the opinion that you should go through life as honestly as possible. Just because it's the government that are losing out doesn't make it a faceless crime (it's the taxpayer that pays in the end). In the same way I would never consider embellishing an insurance claim which again seems to be an 'acceptable' fraud.
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Jun 15th 2007, 12:15 pm
#20
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Re: UK family allowance
Although I know where you're coming from saying that it's not in the same category there are not 'degrees' of fraud - if you knowingly claim for something you are not entitled to it's fraud full stop.
I'm not judging anyone on this thread but I've always been of the opinion that you should go through life as honestly as possible. Just because it's the government that are losing out doesn't make it a faceless crime (it's the taxpayer that pays in the end). In the same way I would never consider embellishing an insurance claim which again seems to be an 'acceptable' fraud.
"Climbs off high horse alongside northernird"
I'm not judging anyone on this thread but I've always been of the opinion that you should go through life as honestly as possible. Just because it's the government that are losing out doesn't make it a faceless crime (it's the taxpayer that pays in the end). In the same way I would never consider embellishing an insurance claim which again seems to be an 'acceptable' fraud.
"Climbs off high horse alongside northernird"
Jun 15th 2007, 12:23 pm
#23
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Re: UK family allowance
I have known people claim it for a while once they emigrated. This has annoyed me as like you all say it is fraud and typical of the UK to give unknown handouts.
Best thing though, is that they got caught (after 3 years tho) and had to pay it all back. Too right.
Best thing though, is that they got caught (after 3 years tho) and had to pay it all back. Too right.
Jun 15th 2007, 12:42 pm
#24
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Re: UK family allowance
and how do they get it back?
by asking nicely, 12,000 miles away i just cant see that it worth the hassle.
Personally I'd allow it all to continue, as soon as this country burns up and disappears the better.
along with all the work dodging gits that reside in it.
by asking nicely, 12,000 miles away i just cant see that it worth the hassle.
Personally I'd allow it all to continue, as soon as this country burns up and disappears the better.
along with all the work dodging gits that reside in it.
Jun 15th 2007, 12:47 pm
#25
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Re: UK family allowance
Owing the Government is VERY different to owing say a telephone provider. They have a lot more power in debt recovery.
Jun 15th 2007, 12:59 pm
#26
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Re: UK family allowance
MMM, probably true,
but will they chase it, I'd like to think so, but Im left uninspired by the lack of any backbone in this society to speak out properly.
but will they chase it, I'd like to think so, but Im left uninspired by the lack of any backbone in this society to speak out properly.
Jun 15th 2007, 1:00 pm
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Jun 15th 2007, 1:10 pm
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Re: UK family allowance
This thread is about whether you can claim benefits legally after moving to another country.
Please do not use it as a place to air your views about why yiou are leaving the UK.
Please do not use it as a place to air your views about why yiou are leaving the UK.
Jun 15th 2007, 1:21 pm
#29
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Re: UK family allowance
ok,
mentioned this before, we claimed it, it was an oversight,
we have now forfeited the benefit until its all paid back.
We wish we now had the knoweldge we werent allowed to claim it.
SO I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST IT.
IT IS FRAUD.....
IN THE EYES OF THE LAW, SO YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE P85 FORM TOO WHEN EXITING THE COUNTRY
mentioned this before, we claimed it, it was an oversight,
we have now forfeited the benefit until its all paid back.
We wish we now had the knoweldge we werent allowed to claim it.
SO I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST IT.
IT IS FRAUD.....
IN THE EYES OF THE LAW, SO YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE P85 FORM TOO WHEN EXITING THE COUNTRY
Jun 18th 2007, 1:16 pm
#30
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Re: UK family allowance
ok,
mentioned this before, we claimed it, it was an oversight,
we have now forfeited the benefit until its all paid back.
We wish we now had the knoweldge we werent allowed to claim it.
SO I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST IT.
IT IS FRAUD.....
IN THE EYES OF THE LAW, SO YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE P85 FORM TOO WHEN EXITING THE COUNTRY
mentioned this before, we claimed it, it was an oversight,
we have now forfeited the benefit until its all paid back.
We wish we now had the knoweldge we werent allowed to claim it.
SO I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST IT.
IT IS FRAUD.....
IN THE EYES OF THE LAW, SO YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE P85 FORM TOO WHEN EXITING THE COUNTRY