Cheetah7

Turds in leather jackets with flick knives, taking over 'the hood'

geordiebloke

Yes, but that's the point, if you took a Great Dane puppy and put it with some prick who beats it, trains it and encourages it to be aggressive, it would turn out far more dangerous than any pitbull.
There are many other breeds of dog that are far larger and potentially more dangerous than pitbulls if left in the wrong hands.

I've never owned a staffy but have had contact with many through work and have found almost all of them to be very friendly, even those owned by tosspots who thought it made them look hard

geordiebloke

All dogs, large and small, should be kept on a leash, unless in a designated area.
Not everyone likes dogs and should not have to tolerate an unknown dog running up to them, even if it is friendly.

Cheetah7

Exactly, but I am amazed that owners are prepared to pay the fines so that their precious mutt can go off the leash.

We have one male American Bulldog that lives about a 5 min walk from my house, he nearly pulled their pergola down as he was tied to one of the poles supporting it as he was snarling at my dog when we went by, he does this with anyone that walks on the pavement so I have been told - I wonder if he ever broke his chain what he would do?

There is also 70kg rottie that is so aggressive the owner cant let him off the leash, he has trouble holding him - this dog went for my friends red heeler/staffie cross. My husband no longer walks near this dogs house as he always seems to bump into this owner with his dog and the dog has nearly pulled him over on more than one occasion.

I never had this problem in London, was never scared to walk my dog but here the dogs just dont seem to be well socialised, even our local vet said its a big problem in our suburb. Our world is getting smaller when it comes to our dog.

I swear to god that if any dog off the leash attacks my kelpie now, I will report them straight to the ranger - there are fines for having an out of control dog, and I will push for the highest penalty - including destruction if I have to.

Harsh? yep probably but so is watching your young friendly and under control dog get attacked more times in 2 years than anything I have ever seen.

As you say, not everyone likes dogs so why the hell dont some owners take control and if they know their dog is not good with others, keep it under control.

Which reminds me, as we were pulling into our driveway on Sunday, a large brown staffie off the leash was running around in our driveway, then went into our neighbours driveway and took a dump, the owner just called him on and they went down the road - once again I wondered what would have happened had we been taking our kelpie out for a walk?

I so wish pepper sprays were legal here, my tolerance is now zero and I will do what I have to to defend myself and my dog.

Wish I could move to where this isn't an issue.

hollykimalan

We had a 55 kg Female Bull Mastiff. We has three kids under four.
She was a real BIG softy- but we never left her totally unattended.
She was never dog aggressive either. However, if another dog had a go at her
she wouldn't let it happen twice. Not by biting but by pushing them away.
From a distance at the beach she looked like a staffy. We used to love watching Staffys running full speed towards here looking for a but of rough
and tumble. They would become slower and slower as they got
closer and it was dawning on them she was a big gal.
We never had problems with her except with silly we westies and
the like trying to bite her!!
HKA

Cheetah7

Have you noticed with some of the bigger dogs, they think they are 'lap dogs' and try to get on your knee

My friends Dog de Bordeaux would always try and get on someones knee

petensue

I know how you feel pp as when I had a GSD in England he was attacked by every type of dog you could imagine.I remember one man with two out of control boxer dogs saying as they went for him it's ok they could do with being taught a lesson!

It can also make your dog more aggressive.I really don't know what the answer is.Though where I live you walk past a house and the gate or garage door is shaking because the dog is trying to get at you,the poor dogs never seem to go out,why have them?Sue.

Dreamy

So you think all Great Danes should be classified as dangerous dogs, just in case?

Cheetah7

Did you see that video about the blind woman walking her guide dog, and a staffie dog off the leash in the subway in Cricklewood attacked it - the attack went on for ages and the guy kicked the shit out of his dog and it wouldnt release this little labrador bitch.

In the end he got the dog off and ran away with his dog, the woman was seen on CCTV holding her hands to her ears as she couldnt do anything, the dog just wouldnt release and this poor labrador on the floor.

They caught the guy and he has been banned from keeping animals but the bastard gave the dog away to stop it being destroyed can you believe??

geordiebloke

Any dog breed has the potential to be dangerous, obviously the larger the breed, the larger the potential.
Just pointing out that the obsession of branding pitbulls or staffies as particularly dangerous is wrong.
It is how they are trained, socialized etc. that is the overriding factor as to if they will turn out vicious or not.
If your average rednecks/chavs had decided that bull mastiffs or, god forbid, caucasian mountain dogs, were the best status symbol to have, you would have seen far more instances of people being seriously hurt by dangerous dogs.

petensue

I could not bring myself to watch the video but saw a photo from it.Thank god the lab was ok though I don't know if it is still a guide dog.I hope the poor women was able to go out again after the attack.

When I was out with my GSD he had one Scottie dog attached to his throat and one to his backside and myself and my husband managed to kick the dogs off I have no idea how we could have got a different type of dog off.Sue.

Cheetah7

You know what I find terrifying, is that some breeds just latch on and no matter what you do, they will not let go. What the hell are you meant to do in this situation?

Greyhounds and whippets are easy to get off another dog - you just 'flank them', have one hand on the collar and you pull on their flank quickly and move your hand away quickly and they will drop their 'prey'.

But in that video, the guy kicking his dog and pulling it, it wouldnt release at all - what on earth do you do when a dog has yours by the neck and wont let go?

hollykimalan

I was thinking of getting a whippet. Do they attack other dogs?
I know that they think cats are fair game...but other dogs?
Having said our Bull Mastiff was a gentle giant we are looking for a dog which doesnt elicit the same old fear and hysteria in others. It became really tiring with folk crossing the road to avoid us. And never really got used to her being attacked by wee dogs all the time.
HKA
x

Cheetah7

My whippet hated other dogs going near her mouth and would snap at them, but only if she was on the leash.

Beautiful dogs, I love the breed so very much and my whippet adored our cat and would play for hours with him, she was so gentle with my cat who would hang off her neck and wrestle with her.

Whippets are very sensitive dogs, my whippet hated the rain and getting her paws wet but was a thief, she stole anything she could get in her mouth including a large block of English mature cheddar!

Deancm_MKII

Suffocate them ie. put your hand over their nostrils. They will let go to take a breath of air. Something every Staffy/Bully owner should know.