Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
#2
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
If global warming starts to rear it's head, people will flock to Tasmania and It's currently abundant water supplies.... So thats the first major flaw in the projections.
#3
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And second, boiling frogs. Haven't seen people vacating the QLD flood plains, despite the evidence.
#4
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Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
#5
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
Great stuff - the more the merrier
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
#6
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
Great stuff - the more the merrier
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
Fracking IMO is worse than Nuclear.
Create jobs in the energy/utility/food industries and share the benefits.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Nov 27th 2013 at 4:41 am.
#7
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
Agree with everything, save for the fracking.... However my non green addition is to do with the water shortages that may come. Instead of Desal, dam some of the wilderness rivers in Tasmania and put a couple of major pipelines under Bass strait and fix up Australias water network. Taking full of advantage of the West Coast of Tasmania being in the top 10 rainfall areas in the World.... Currently.
Fracking IMO is worse than Nuclear.
Create jobs in the energy/utility/food industries and share the benefits.
Fracking IMO is worse than Nuclear.
Create jobs in the energy/utility/food industries and share the benefits.
Nuclear is the way to go for energy security
We need to frack on a biblical scale (apart from a few key areas) IMO
#8
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
IE: Water is more valuable than energy.,.... So not worth the risk to frack.
I'd rather have Nuclear power than fracking 10 times over.
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Interesting that the Left and Right can agree on something.... Jobs and Growth
Greenies equate to job/growth stifiling in my book.
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Indeed. Paul Howes, the union guy, who is far left and I can't stand is a big proponent of nuclear. He sees the advantages for jobs, prosperity and energy security
#12
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
Great stuff - the more the merrier
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
to go big and prosper imo
#13
Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
Great stuff - the more the merrier
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
Australia with 40m+ will have an economy rivalling the big countries of Western Europe. Become a major player
Perth with 3m - awesome
Water? Desal the f**ker - powered by nukes
10-12 nukes plus gas, solar wind, geothermal - juice sorted for a generation
natural, CS, shale gas to last generations. gas to liquid to provide transport fuel. Bio too
Develop a food bowl and free trade zone in the North - feed ourselves and Asia. Provides regional stability and prosperity
HS rail down the east coast - Brisbane to Melbourne. Adelaide even. Geraldton to Bunbury too
etc
Build, build and build some more
It's interesting on Melbourne. Currently (just over 4 mill), you can travel the equivalent of Glasgow to Edinburgh and still be in Melbourne. Twice as large?
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Re: Squeeze is on as Melbourne and Australia's populations boom!
Fracking is to risky for the Australian Artesian Basin... With the next war likely to be over water shortages, everything possible should be done to make sure the water supply doesn't get anywhere near contaminated.
IE: Water is more valuable than energy.,.... So not worth the risk to frack.
I'd rather have Nuclear power than fracking 10 times over.
IE: Water is more valuable than energy.,.... So not worth the risk to frack.
I'd rather have Nuclear power than fracking 10 times over.
http://juanvelascoblog.files.wordpre...plains-map.jpg
I'd tend to say that energy is obviously more valuable than water - since if you have energy you can desalinate yourself as much water as you want.
I agree that Australia should have hardened the f**k up and built itself a suite of nuclear stations - it has the ideal circumstances to do so, large tracts of coastline with nobody anywhere near them. However, as has previously been mentioned, australian politicians are not the best or most insightful of the breed - and the breed only has a 4 year time horizon.
As for massive population increase - the question is 'why'? Historically the larger the population, the better your economy runs due to economies of scale. However it's far from certain that that rings true going forward. With automation and globalisation it may well be that the benefits of a small, integrated, and intelligent population win out, using discardable slave labour for the grunt work (the Dubai model). High quality immigration is already almost there (ahem), but most of the rest needed for that model is lacking.
Oh, and australia could really do with investing research money in fast, efficient solar powered desal plants. A nice world leading, patented, technology in that area would not only win big for domestic usage, but also for overseas sales.
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Interesting read and thread here... Thanks very much!! Looks like there's an exciting future ahead!