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Oct 25th 2003, 8:48 pm
#76
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yes, and so he should be proud. It's just that in NZ there's no distinction of class 'background' to come from (not 'labelled on the can' anyway).
Increasingly in parts of Auck, Wgtn, and Chch, it is important to some what school you went to - but there are no working class/middle class labels as there are in the UK
It's a small but interesting difference in the societies.... and something some coming from the UK may find odd....
Increasingly in parts of Auck, Wgtn, and Chch, it is important to some what school you went to - but there are no working class/middle class labels as there are in the UK
It's a small but interesting difference in the societies.... and something some coming from the UK may find odd....
Originally posted by nicholls clan
In the same respect a "working class" footballer done good will always be proud of where he comes from and will always help those from his back ground who want to get on.
In the same respect a "working class" footballer done good will always be proud of where he comes from and will always help those from his back ground who want to get on.
Oct 25th 2003, 9:24 pm
#77
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Originally posted by jandjuk
yes, where there's money there will always be snobbery....
but deedee I see a difference in NZ vs the Uk.
In NZ everybody starts from more or less the same place, and anybody can join the flash car 'club' if they have enough money....
Whereas in the UK this is true to an extent, but the differences in your background are harder to shift. ie, you can be a top footballer with an flash car, live in the right place, have the right friends etc, but you'll always be 'working class'. The labels are worn like a badge - you don't get that so much in NZ. Some of it goes unspoken for sure - but it plays a much bigger part in British society.
Like which newspaper you read - that type of thing....
yes, where there's money there will always be snobbery....
but deedee I see a difference in NZ vs the Uk.
In NZ everybody starts from more or less the same place, and anybody can join the flash car 'club' if they have enough money....
Whereas in the UK this is true to an extent, but the differences in your background are harder to shift. ie, you can be a top footballer with an flash car, live in the right place, have the right friends etc, but you'll always be 'working class'. The labels are worn like a badge - you don't get that so much in NZ. Some of it goes unspoken for sure - but it plays a much bigger part in British society.
Like which newspaper you read - that type of thing....
Oct 27th 2003, 8:45 am
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Originally posted by muppetking
I have experienced far more snobbery in Christchurch than I ever did in England. Where you live can instantly define you just as it does in the UK.
I have experienced far more snobbery in Christchurch than I ever did in England. Where you live can instantly define you just as it does in the UK.
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Oct 27th 2003, 8:49 am
#79
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Originally posted by muppetking
I have experienced far more snobbery in Christchurch than I ever did in England. Where you live can instantly define you just as it does in the UK.
I have experienced far more snobbery in Christchurch than I ever did in England. Where you live can instantly define you just as it does in the UK.
I dunno, I know what I mean, but having difficulty explaining it....
Oct 27th 2003, 9:39 am
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Originally posted by jandjuk
Yes yes yes, but my point is that snobbery in the UK is more tied to your class - in NZ it is tied to other factors.
I dunno, I know what I mean, but having difficulty explaining it....
Yes yes yes, but my point is that snobbery in the UK is more tied to your class - in NZ it is tied to other factors.
I dunno, I know what I mean, but having difficulty explaining it....
I entirely agree with you that class in Oz and NZ is defined by different things than it is in the UK. For example in the UK a lot of people are impressed by a double barrelled name (for some reason) eg Sir Peregrine Rivington-Foreskin (I just made that one up folks ).TennisOz
Oct 29th 2003, 8:37 pm
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Ok All you people
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
Oct 29th 2003, 8:37 pm
#82
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Ok All you people
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
:lecture:
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
:lecture:
Oct 29th 2003, 8:48 pm
#83
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Originally posted by Poula
Ok All you people
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
:lecture:
Ok All you people
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
:lecture:
Oct 29th 2003, 8:51 pm
#84
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Originally posted by Poula
Ok All you people
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
Ok All you people
Lets have a little test to see how snobby or not we are.
What are people like in different areas (places you have never been to) in your opinion.
eg. Liverpool - All yobs and layabouts
Oxford - All posh snobby people
Glasgow - All pi**heads
No offence is intended to anybody from these areas this is just a snob test on ourselves
).followed by Shrewsbury.most down to earth Scots and Geordies.South Welsh(Billy)
Oct 29th 2003, 9:28 pm
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regional differences, UK
Hi I think there is 'something' in these different regions.
Traditionally the English hate the French. In the SOuth we think the north wear clogs, live in terraced houses and eat black puddin' and tripe.
Northerners are brash, like th eaussies if you ask me.
Traditionally the English hate the French. In the SOuth we think the north wear clogs, live in terraced houses and eat black puddin' and tripe.
Northerners are brash, like th eaussies if you ask me.
Oct 29th 2003, 9:32 pm
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Originally posted by chris hogan
You can't have an opinion on an area you've never been to,well I can't.I've travelled most of this country working and found the most snobby were Surrey(around Purley/Whiteleaf)I lived there for about 3 weeks and could take no more(it may have been my scouse accent ).followed by Shrewsbury.most down to earth Scots and Geordies.South Welsh(Billy)
You can't have an opinion on an area you've never been to,well I can't.I've travelled most of this country working and found the most snobby were Surrey(around Purley/Whiteleaf)I lived there for about 3 weeks and could take no more(it may have been my scouse accent
).followed by Shrewsbury.most down to earth Scots and Geordies.South Welsh(Billy)
i would agree with that analysis.i would also say the irish are a very welcoming people.
Oct 29th 2003, 9:36 pm
#87
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And rhe welsh are known as the Tafia. Sorry couldn't resist.
Oct 29th 2003, 9:36 pm
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Originally posted by mumomonty
And rhe welsh are known as the Tafia. Sorry couldn't resist.
And rhe welsh are known as the Tafia. Sorry couldn't resist.
Oct 29th 2003, 9:41 pm
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Originally posted by welshboybilly
i would agree with that analysis.
i would also say the irish are a very welcoming people.
i would agree with that analysis.i would also say the irish are a very welcoming people.
Oct 30th 2003, 7:48 am
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Originally posted by chris hogan
There is not many Irishmen that would thank a William,so I will make a special point of this one cheers Welshboybilly
There is not many Irishmen that would thank a William,so I will make a special point of this one cheers Welshboybilly
but that's another sad story.TennisOz