serious help needed
Jul 7th 2008, 8:54 am
#16
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Re: serious help needed
My advice would be too come clean and work it through with the ATO.
Getting a new passport with different names??? is it your conscience making you post or just a chance for you to sound out whether you can get away with it again?
Jul 7th 2008, 9:33 am
#17
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Re: serious help needed
i think you have already cooked your goose pal as immigration in oz read expat forums for fraudulent operations.true believe it.:
Jul 7th 2008, 1:38 pm
#18
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Re: serious help needed
Jul 7th 2008, 11:54 pm
#19
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Re: serious help needed
Sorry, this was not the original theme of the thread (wind-up or not, not sure) but ray2gill's comment struck a nerve. I imagine Dubai is similar to Singapore/SEA - where there is demand there will be supply, be it maids, construction workers or hookers. Some will act fraudulently on their own initiative, but many will be innocent but gullible kids from villages, led into it by agents making obscene amounts of money off them, by peddling them to "normal honest law abiding citizens" who want cheap labour to do their dirty work.
OK I'll get off my soapbox now.
Jul 8th 2008, 4:12 am
#20
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Re: serious help needed
Tells you a bit about how bad it must be where they come from and why they might be desperate enough to fake a passport, no?
many will be innocent but gullible kids from villages, led into it by agents making obscene amounts of money off them, by peddling them to "normal honest law abiding citizens" who want cheap labour to do their dirty work.
OK I'll get off my soapbox now.
many will be innocent but gullible kids from villages, led into it by agents making obscene amounts of money off them, by peddling them to "normal honest law abiding citizens" who want cheap labour to do their dirty work.
OK I'll get off my soapbox now.
For this very reason we would not buy property here or have a maid, as do so many western expats. Although they are probably treated better than if they are workings for locals.
Jul 8th 2008, 5:27 am
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Re: serious help needed
You didn’t sound like too much trouble until you got to this bit!
Lots of people forget to pay their tax or do their tax return, but that is easily fixed by eventually lodging your return – yes you might owe a lot depending how many years you have avoided, but it’s not too bad a situation to get out of.
Changing your name is simple and not an odd thing to do, I have changed mine 3 times (long story), it’s simple, costs about $90 at Births Deaths an Marriages and can be done in a day.
As for changing your DOB, that’s where you become dodgy, yes some countries allow you to change your date of birth (turkey) but there is no logical reason why someone would change their date of birth unless it was to fraud something.
Because of this I reckon you’re going to run into problem. Regardless you will run into problems here when you go for your Tax File Number.
1: Your Tax File Number stays the same regardless of what changes on you.
2: If you just apply for a new Tax File Number under your new details as a
new person without disclosing the previous information then you are committing fraud.
You should of just been honest from the start, you have turned a tiny problem it something that might be pretty big.
Want to fix it? Stop committing, or trying to commit fraud!
Mikey
Lots of people forget to pay their tax or do their tax return, but that is easily fixed by eventually lodging your return – yes you might owe a lot depending how many years you have avoided, but it’s not too bad a situation to get out of.
Changing your name is simple and not an odd thing to do, I have changed mine 3 times (long story), it’s simple, costs about $90 at Births Deaths an Marriages and can be done in a day.
As for changing your DOB, that’s where you become dodgy, yes some countries allow you to change your date of birth (turkey) but there is no logical reason why someone would change their date of birth unless it was to fraud something.
Because of this I reckon you’re going to run into problem. Regardless you will run into problems here when you go for your Tax File Number.
1: Your Tax File Number stays the same regardless of what changes on you.
2: If you just apply for a new Tax File Number under your new details as a
new person without disclosing the previous information then you are committing fraud.
You should of just been honest from the start, you have turned a tiny problem it something that might be pretty big.
Want to fix it? Stop committing, or trying to commit fraud!
Mikey
Last edited by Mikeyc; Jul 8th 2008 at 5:32 am.
Jul 8th 2008, 5:29 am
#22
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Re: serious help needed
I'll sort you a new passport for £500. Make sure its in used notes and left in a brown paper bag in the third waste bin after the Red Lion pub. I'll arrange collection of the currency and I'll have the documents waiting for you at 9pm.
I'll be standing at the 2nd bus stop wearing a penguin suit and bowler hat. I'll also be carrying a rolled up copy of the Sunday Sport in my left hand. Remember 9pm sharp and make sure no-one follows you
I'll be standing at the 2nd bus stop wearing a penguin suit and bowler hat. I'll also be carrying a rolled up copy of the Sunday Sport in my left hand. Remember 9pm sharp and make sure no-one follows you
Jul 8th 2008, 5:38 am
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Re: serious help needed
PS: Why do you guy’s all seem confused and shocked at someone changing their name and getting a new passport.
People change their names everyday, for many different reasons. All you do is go to Births Deaths and Marriages and register your new name.
Once you have your change of name certificate, you must legally change EVERYTHING you have to your new name, INCLUDING passports. There is nothing strange about this at all. Infact, most passport forms even have a box or form specifically for people who have changed their name!
The only thing that makes him look like he is up to something is the change of DOB.
Mikey
People change their names everyday, for many different reasons. All you do is go to Births Deaths and Marriages and register your new name.
Once you have your change of name certificate, you must legally change EVERYTHING you have to your new name, INCLUDING passports. There is nothing strange about this at all. Infact, most passport forms even have a box or form specifically for people who have changed their name!
The only thing that makes him look like he is up to something is the change of DOB.
Mikey
Jul 8th 2008, 5:42 am
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Re: serious help needed
PS: Why do you guy’s all seem confused and shocked at someone changing their name and getting a new passport.
People change their names everyday, for many different reasons. All you do is go to Births Deaths and Marriages and register your new name.
Once you have your change of name certificate, you must legally change EVERYTHING you have to your new name, INCLUDING passports. There is nothing strange about this at all. Infact, most passport forms even have a box or form specifically for people who have changed their name!
The only thing that makes him look like he is up to something is the change of DOB.
Mikey
People change their names everyday, for many different reasons. All you do is go to Births Deaths and Marriages and register your new name.
Once you have your change of name certificate, you must legally change EVERYTHING you have to your new name, INCLUDING passports. There is nothing strange about this at all. Infact, most passport forms even have a box or form specifically for people who have changed their name!
The only thing that makes him look like he is up to something is the change of DOB.
Mikey
The name change in itself isn't a problem, the deception and fraud that follows it IS a problem.
Jul 8th 2008, 5:45 am
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Re: serious help needed
The point is that he has deliberately not declared his change of name and dob to DIAC and has not given them the details of his previous visa - to quote the OP "i didnt tolld anything abt my previous visit to aus also abt my old passport as i thought my visa will be refused and my new passport will be blacklisted too.
The name change in itself isn't a problem, the deception and fraud that follows it IS a problem.
The name change in itself isn't a problem, the deception and fraud that follows it IS a problem.
It’s just reading some of the posts on this thread people are saying they can’t understand how he changed his name or how is it possible to change your surname on your passport etc etc.
Mikey
Jul 8th 2008, 9:08 am
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Re: serious help needed
PS: Why do you guy’s all seem confused and shocked at someone changing their name and getting a new passport.
People change their names everyday, for many different reasons. All you do is go to Births Deaths and Marriages and register your new name.
Once you have your change of name certificate, you must legally change EVERYTHING you have to your new name, INCLUDING passports. There is nothing strange about this at all. Infact, most passport forms even have a box or form specifically for people who have changed their name!
The only thing that makes him look like he is up to something is the change of DOB.
Mikey
People change their names everyday, for many different reasons. All you do is go to Births Deaths and Marriages and register your new name.
Once you have your change of name certificate, you must legally change EVERYTHING you have to your new name, INCLUDING passports. There is nothing strange about this at all. Infact, most passport forms even have a box or form specifically for people who have changed their name!
The only thing that makes him look like he is up to something is the change of DOB.
Mikey
"How can you be applying for a new passport with another surname and date of birth????"
I am well aware people change their names, I for one changed mine when I got married. Perhaps I should have stressed the "AND" in my posting...
Last edited by Tomski Tribe; Jul 8th 2008 at 10:26 am.
Jul 8th 2008, 10:01 am
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Re: serious help needed
Has he gone ? done a runner me's thnk.
Jul 8th 2008, 12:07 pm
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Jul 8th 2008, 12:40 pm
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Re: serious help needed
Post of the year ...
Well done.
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Well done.
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I was in australia last yr and I commited a big mistake (sort of tax evasion I guess)which I learnt later abt and decided to leave the country before getting in trouble ,okie now a yr have gone by , my previous passport had expired , so I applied for a completly new passport with new last name new dob but with same first name . ANd applied for australian visa ,i didnt tolld anything abt my previous visit to aus also abt my old passport as i thought my visa will be refused and my new passport will be blacklisted too but now I am getting worried , plz guide me will they find out abt me , it seems illegal but have no other way,
thnx
thnx
