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Old Oct 31st 2013, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by gregster10217
Thanks sparkles. Obviously got to submit visa application, but the nature of the ill health retirement was not of concern to immi when my wife phoned and spoke to them.
I'll look up the link you post and take advice, thanks.
If you do speak to Alan, he's also a MARA agent so might be able to kill two birds so to speak
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Originally Posted by gregster10217
Thanks Paul. How would we go about transferring it before my wife becomes a resident? It is just a case of opening an account in her name and moving it across, or is there more to it than that? Also, I'm not resident for tax purposes, yet, could I do the same, I.e. If we split it?
You don't have to actually transfer it before becomming resident you just have to recieve it (into a UK a/c would be fine). The ATO are only intrested in worldwide income you recieve once you are tax resident so any income or lump sum before this date is irrevelent (to ATO, might be relevent but to UK taxman??).
Best method of transferring is Ozforex IMHO.
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Old Oct 31st 2013, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwipaul
You don't have to actually transfer it before becomming resident you just have to recieve it (into a UK a/c would be fine). The ATO are only intrested in worldwide income you recieve once you are tax resident so any income or lump sum before this date is irrevelent (to ATO, might be relevent but to UK taxman??).
Best method of transferring is Ozforex IMHO.
Thanks again Paul. As it's a pension, in the UK the lump sum is not taxed, and if monthly pension payments exceed the lowest tax bracket, that would obviously be taxed in the UK accordingly. My concern is that it would be taxed by ATO when transferring it over, or would they only be interested in the interest earned on it? We will be bringing enough with us to buys cars, bond on a rental and to survive for a month/6 weeks before I start getting paid, and then we'll see what the conversion rate and tax implications are before we bring the rest over. The vast majority will be used as a deposit on a house (new build or established purchase) and that's not going to happen for at least 6/12 months after our arrival, so no rush to bring it over.
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Originally Posted by gregster10217
My concern is that it would be taxed by ATO when transferring it over, or would they only be interested in the interest earned on it?
No tax on money transferrs by ATO. Just declare your interest you recieve from the point you become tax resident. Maybe you can juggle it so that you recieve all the intrest income 1 day before you become tax resident in Oz. Perfectly legal and sensible.
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... if monthly pension payments exceed the lowest tax bracket, that would obviously be taxed in the UK accordingly ...

=> Not once you are tax resident in Australia. There is a procedure to be followed under the Tax Treaty between the UK and Australia whereby the pension income is wholly taxable in Australia, and a NT (No Tax) PAYE Coding is applied to the pension in the UK.

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Got it. So we can transfer over what is needed, leave the rest in the UK, but, as you say, will have to declare interest earned on UK account when filling in tax return.
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Originally Posted by Alan Collett
... if monthly pension payments exceed the lowest tax bracket, that would obviously be taxed in the UK accordingly ...

=> Not once you are tax resident in Australia. There is a procedure to be followed under the Tax Treaty between the UK and Australia whereby the pension income is wholly taxable in Australia, and a NT (No Tax) PAYE Coding is applied to the pension in the UK.

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Thanks Alan. You detail name has been mentioned on here. I'll be in touch soon for some advice.
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