Negativity v Constructive Comments
#16
Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
One positive of the negative comments is that I was expecting some things to be really bad here and in reality they turned out to be okay or no different to the UK.
#17
Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
We always looked at both sides viewpoints with equal understanding. The reason, people have there own ideas and viewpoints according to there individual life at that time.
All comments are helpful even the sarcastic ones that put a weird smile on our faces at times (mentioning no names)
We see comments as a way of life and like life it's self - varied and not always what you want to see and hear
All comments are helpful even the sarcastic ones that put a weird smile on our faces at times (mentioning no names)
We see comments as a way of life and like life it's self - varied and not always what you want to see and hear
#18
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Apr 2004
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Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
At the time we emigrated I was given loads of advice on OZ and almost all of it was 100% positive.
However a lot of it was simply a crock of shite.
The truth would have been far more helpful.
However a lot of it was simply a crock of shite.
The truth would have been far more helpful.
#19
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I agree with the other poster in that is not so much the content of what is said but the way it is delivered. Some posters on here have the diplomacy of a sledge hammer. Some posters say how they feel/have found the experience as an absolute and do not say that it is there experience which can differ according to ones own personality, job situation and budget.
#20
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I wouldn't agree with the last couple of paragraphs from my own point of view moving to Australia probably added 10 years to my life expectancy as I learned how to live more and work less. That changed with longer hours and more crap at work to deal with.
Moving back to the UK has been easy and 8 months in I've saved more than I did in 5 years in Australia and I haven't really bothered with old friends much although I probably should when I get a car next month and can travel more easily.
Moving back to the UK has been easy and 8 months in I've saved more than I did in 5 years in Australia and I haven't really bothered with old friends much although I probably should when I get a car next month and can travel more easily.
The social cost is the new friends. It takes a long time to make really good friends in a new country – I think around 5 years before you enjoy the same level of friendship you enjoyed in the UK.
There is also that unspoken thing: migrating changes you.
I don’t think I have ever seen it mentioned here, but it is a fact. Migration changes your outlook on life. Even if you go back to the UK, you are a different person.
#21
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Let's face it. If you're a delicate flower, to post on public forums is asking for it.
Not everything about Australia is great. In fact, much of it is pretty crap and in the wake of the absurdity of our cost of living rises, the reason that many people eye Australia as a new start may not be there anymore. A lot of people consider that "negative". I call it honest opinion.
I've seen posters throw the dummy out the pram because some random strangers made comments which clearly didn't meet the expected fantasy. I especially like the "I've not got rose tinted glasses" comments - bet you have. We all did secretly otherwise you wouldn't bother to move half way around the world
Toughen up princesses. Moving continent is not the feint of heart. It's very rare that anyone is truly nasty on this forum so just take in the spirit that there are a lot of people here with a different way of expressing their views.
Not everything about Australia is great. In fact, much of it is pretty crap and in the wake of the absurdity of our cost of living rises, the reason that many people eye Australia as a new start may not be there anymore. A lot of people consider that "negative". I call it honest opinion.
I've seen posters throw the dummy out the pram because some random strangers made comments which clearly didn't meet the expected fantasy. I especially like the "I've not got rose tinted glasses" comments - bet you have. We all did secretly otherwise you wouldn't bother to move half way around the world
Toughen up princesses. Moving continent is not the feint of heart. It's very rare that anyone is truly nasty on this forum so just take in the spirit that there are a lot of people here with a different way of expressing their views.
#22
Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
Let's face it. If you're a delicate flower, to post on public forums is asking for it.
Not everything about Australia is great. In fact, much of it is pretty crap and in the wake of the absurdity of our cost of living rises, the reason that many people eye Australia as a new start may not be there anymore. A lot of people consider that "negative". I call it honest opinion.
I've seen posters throw the dummy out the pram because some random strangers made comments which clearly didn't meet the expected fantasy. I especially like the "I've not got rose tinted glasses" comments - bet you have. We all did secretly otherwise you wouldn't bother to move half way around the world
Toughen up princesses. Moving continent is not the feint of heart. It's very rare that anyone is truly nasty on this forum so just take in the spirit that there are a lot of people here with a different way of expressing their views.
Not everything about Australia is great. In fact, much of it is pretty crap and in the wake of the absurdity of our cost of living rises, the reason that many people eye Australia as a new start may not be there anymore. A lot of people consider that "negative". I call it honest opinion.
I've seen posters throw the dummy out the pram because some random strangers made comments which clearly didn't meet the expected fantasy. I especially like the "I've not got rose tinted glasses" comments - bet you have. We all did secretly otherwise you wouldn't bother to move half way around the world
Toughen up princesses. Moving continent is not the feint of heart. It's very rare that anyone is truly nasty on this forum so just take in the spirit that there are a lot of people here with a different way of expressing their views.
(Agree with it though! )
#26
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Joined: Nov 2010
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Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
Its true - a cautionary tale can be taken as either fair warning or negativity depending on the delicacy of one's constitution.
If all you want is unalloyed positivity you'd be better off (a) moving to California and (b) steering well clear of internet forums.
If you want advice, be prepared to take the rough with the smooth. If you want your choices validated by a shower of strangers with a mixed bag of experiences, predjudices and states of sobriety - you're probably looking in the wrong place.
If all you want is unalloyed positivity you'd be better off (a) moving to California and (b) steering well clear of internet forums.
If you want advice, be prepared to take the rough with the smooth. If you want your choices validated by a shower of strangers with a mixed bag of experiences, predjudices and states of sobriety - you're probably looking in the wrong place.
#27
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It might help if some of the negative comments was backed by evidence. I’m not saying that it isn’t factually based; just that often the facts are left off the post.
“Oh the kebabs in Dubbo are really expensive” doesn’t really mean anything.
“The Kebabs in Dubbo average $15 for a beef with the works. This is $10 dearer than what I paid in Bradford” is more helpful.
“Oh the kebabs in Dubbo are really expensive” doesn’t really mean anything.
“The Kebabs in Dubbo average $15 for a beef with the works. This is $10 dearer than what I paid in Bradford” is more helpful.
#28
Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
It might help if some of the negative comments was backed by evidence. I’m not saying that it isn’t factually based; just that often the facts are left off the post.
“Oh the kebabs in Dubbo are really expensive” doesn’t really mean anything.
“The Kebabs in Dubbo average $15 for a beef with the works. This is $10 dearer than what I paid in Bradford” is more helpful.
“Oh the kebabs in Dubbo are really expensive” doesn’t really mean anything.
“The Kebabs in Dubbo average $15 for a beef with the works. This is $10 dearer than what I paid in Bradford” is more helpful.
#29
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Joined: Sep 2004
Location: London - but only until I can afford to move back to Sydney
Posts: 938
Re: Negativity v Constructive Comments
What I really meant was financially there are costs involved in migrating, and for the average couple it probably takes 5 years to recoup those costs. Even the cost of visas these days isn’t cheap, and then add on airflights, shipping, the cost of buying new things here in Australia etc. It soon adds up.
The social cost is the new friends. It takes a long time to make really good friends in a new country – I think around 5 years before you enjoy the same level of friendship you enjoyed in the UK.
There is also that unspoken thing: migrating changes you.
I don’t think I have ever seen it mentioned here, but it is a fact. Migration changes your outlook on life. Even if you go back to the UK, you are a different person.
The social cost is the new friends. It takes a long time to make really good friends in a new country – I think around 5 years before you enjoy the same level of friendship you enjoyed in the UK.
There is also that unspoken thing: migrating changes you.
I don’t think I have ever seen it mentioned here, but it is a fact. Migration changes your outlook on life. Even if you go back to the UK, you are a different person.
#30
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I agree with the other poster in that is not so much the content of what is said but the way it is delivered. Some posters on here have the diplomacy of a sledge hammer. Some posters say how they feel/have found the experience as an absolute and do not say that it is there experience which can differ according to ones own personality, job situation and budget.
Agree with above first sentance completely.
I wasn't meaning that only good stuff about Australia should be mentioned, but rather how at times it is actually said and put across by some posters but I must admit reading the replies on this thread was in the main pleasant and enjoyable.
I use the forum very occasionally now but in the early days and waiting for the visa etc was on here day/noon/night and at it's best it's a huge source of information but all to often there are just such nasty/sarky/unhelpful comments you wonder why they bother to post you maybe fed up of reading someone looking for a place to live for the millionith time but for them it's the first time of asking........I guess just think before you post sometimes