Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
Apr 15th 2010, 1:04 pm
#32
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Dullsville
Posts: 672
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
I wish people would be more honest.
What are the right reasons to move here? I'd love to know what newbies are thinking now. Anyone?
Apr 15th 2010, 1:29 pm
#33
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 14,284
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
I can't speak for what all newbies are thinking but will try to articulate what I am thinking. Well firstly my husband is more enthusiastic than I am, he always spouts the better life stuff which irritates me a little because he hasn't really looked into what life will be like and just assumes it will be better.
At risk of sounding morbid, at this point I cannot see myself growing old anywhere but the UK however I am happy to try something different for X years and if I change my mind about growing old there then that is fine. I am excited about the adventure and seeing and living in a different part of the world. My husband and I could easily plan ten years of holidays within Austalia, NZ and Pacific. Travel is important to us and we don't have children to consider with the move.
Financially we will be worse off, because we both work in london and sydney salaries just don't seem to match up to london salaries, altho with poor fx rate they are looking about the same at the moment but not if a more typical historical fx rate was applied. However we will come over with about £300k cash and can still earn a very decent living so there is nothing to moan about, but just saying will not be better off financially.
At risk of sounding morbid, at this point I cannot see myself growing old anywhere but the UK however I am happy to try something different for X years and if I change my mind about growing old there then that is fine. I am excited about the adventure and seeing and living in a different part of the world. My husband and I could easily plan ten years of holidays within Austalia, NZ and Pacific. Travel is important to us and we don't have children to consider with the move.
Financially we will be worse off, because we both work in london and sydney salaries just don't seem to match up to london salaries, altho with poor fx rate they are looking about the same at the moment but not if a more typical historical fx rate was applied. However we will come over with about £300k cash and can still earn a very decent living so there is nothing to moan about, but just saying will not be better off financially.
Apr 15th 2010, 1:44 pm
#34
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Location: Perth (ex Oxford)
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Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
As others have pointed out, the forum unfortunately doesn't give a balanced view. The moaners shout the loudest. Those that constantly dwell on negativity reduce the chances of positive things happening. It becomes a never ending spiral of doom and they take every opportunity to let people know about it.
Same thing if you read the letters page of the West Australian ... maybe about 20% of them are commending something and the rest are complaining.
You generally don't hear from people who get on with living life.
Same thing if you read the letters page of the West Australian ... maybe about 20% of them are commending something and the rest are complaining.
You generally don't hear from people who get on with living life.
Last edited by Kalenge; Apr 15th 2010 at 1:46 pm.
Apr 15th 2010, 1:47 pm
#35
OnlyLivingBoyInNewCross
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 653
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
In general the advice seems to be 'stop listening' well will cheer the miserable windbags up no end 
They will be caught in their own mealstrom of misery and have only theirselves to blame, you reap what you sow after all.
You people are crazy, i'm gonna blow this joint, feet don't fail me now.
They will be caught in their own mealstrom of misery and have only theirselves to blame, you reap what you sow after all.
You people are crazy, i'm gonna blow this joint, feet don't fail me now.
Apr 15th 2010, 2:40 pm
#36
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,039
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
I'll tell you why.
We came to Perth 8 years ago and couldn't believe our luck, cheap housing relative to wages, cost of living very reasonable. In fact, we only needed to count on one salary and have a much better lifestyle than UK with more cash left over at the end of the day, it was a no brainer for us and a no brainer for thousands of UK migrants who came over at the same time or before. Word spread back to UK and everyone started to think about migrating to Aus.
Trouble is, the economic environment has changed here massively in the last 2 years. Today, that swap is impossible unless you are cashed up and earning a great wage. Cost of living has skyrocketed, no question, our income has risen at and above the inflation rate and it we're seeing the effects.
When things aren't going so rosy and people start to struggle financially, they start noticing all the negatives in Aus, like sun too hot, locals rude, price of beans is high and realise what they had back home wasn't so bad after all.
I've noticed a massive shift in affordability and cost of living in Perth over the last 2 years and I'm betting on the fact that the party is over here for the medium term. Poms can't afford to come here anymore, there's no 'fat' in the move unless you are blinded by beaches, parks and surf and on't give a shit about the financials.
We came to Perth 8 years ago and couldn't believe our luck, cheap housing relative to wages, cost of living very reasonable. In fact, we only needed to count on one salary and have a much better lifestyle than UK with more cash left over at the end of the day, it was a no brainer for us and a no brainer for thousands of UK migrants who came over at the same time or before. Word spread back to UK and everyone started to think about migrating to Aus.
Trouble is, the economic environment has changed here massively in the last 2 years. Today, that swap is impossible unless you are cashed up and earning a great wage. Cost of living has skyrocketed, no question, our income has risen at and above the inflation rate and it we're seeing the effects.
When things aren't going so rosy and people start to struggle financially, they start noticing all the negatives in Aus, like sun too hot, locals rude, price of beans is high and realise what they had back home wasn't so bad after all.
I've noticed a massive shift in affordability and cost of living in Perth over the last 2 years and I'm betting on the fact that the party is over here for the medium term. Poms can't afford to come here anymore, there's no 'fat' in the move unless you are blinded by beaches, parks and surf and on't give a shit about the financials.
Prices steadily marching up with inflation but that has been happening forever...I few things rising more than inflation - got a smaller pay rise due to GFC but still got one. The last 2 years haven't stood out from other periods to be honest except maybe a bit cheaper due to lower house interest repayments.
Apr 15th 2010, 3:18 pm
#37
Proudly Deplorable
Joined: May 2003
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Posts: 24,246
Apr 15th 2010, 3:21 pm
#38
Proudly Deplorable
Joined: May 2003
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Posts: 24,246
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
As others have pointed out, the forum unfortunately doesn't give a balanced view. The moaners shout the loudest. Those that constantly dwell on negativity reduce the chances of positive things happening. It becomes a never ending spiral of doom and they take every opportunity to let people know about it.
Same thing if you read the letters page of the West Australian ... maybe about 20% of them are commending something and the rest are complaining.
You generally don't hear from people who get on with living life.
Same thing if you read the letters page of the West Australian ... maybe about 20% of them are commending something and the rest are complaining.
You generally don't hear from people who get on with living life.
Apr 15th 2010, 4:00 pm
#40
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 20,821
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
Love it - best decision we ever made. Love the weather, flora and fauna, seeing kangaroos and koalas, camping, fishing, owning a ute, our one level house with plenty of space and modern finishes, the double/king beds in all four bedrooms, enjoying the spa in the garden, going to local affordable concerts, eating lots of fresh food, the feeling of space. Whats not to like.
Sounds good to me. Can't wait.
Apr 15th 2010, 4:13 pm
#41
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,283
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
Agree. As someone who's been on here sadly since late 2004, I think I've noticed a lot of long term posters move on from the all about Aus & how fantastic it is to posts about life in general, entertainment posts and our next Curry posts instead. Theses due to nature of content swing from positive to negative depending on topic.
Apr 15th 2010, 8:28 pm
#42
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Joined: Jul 2008
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Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
Over thirty years for us
The way I see it is we knew it was different here before we came, others think its the UK with sun.l
Aus is different in many many ways and its the difference we like otherwise we would have opted to stay in UK and had a holiday in the sun.
People tend to socialise at home a lot do not nip to the local for a pint. Therefor it takes a while to get friends and find a welcoming pond.
The way I see it is we knew it was different here before we came, others think its the UK with sun.l
Aus is different in many many ways and its the difference we like otherwise we would have opted to stay in UK and had a holiday in the sun.
People tend to socialise at home a lot do not nip to the local for a pint. Therefor it takes a while to get friends and find a welcoming pond.
Apr 15th 2010, 9:27 pm
#43
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Joined: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 4,553
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
On the contrary I found their posts equally helpful (there were a lot of posters in those days - Pommie bastard, Sheila something, I forgot their names) when we were making the move...horses for courses I suppose. Some balance is needed and people need to know both the good and bad, then make their own decision.
Apr 15th 2010, 9:56 pm
#44
Melbourne - NE suburbs
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,032
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
Remember, every single thread/post in here is entirely subjective in one form or another.
You could research the subject to death, come out on an advance reccie, even have friends or family already here to provide inputs, but.....at the end of it all, you will only truly find out if the move works for you or not by actually moving here and giving it a red hot go for at least 3 years.
It's the journey that's important, not the destination.
Good luck with your decision.
Apr 15th 2010, 11:25 pm
#45
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Joined: Sep 2007
Location: South Australia
Posts: 770
Re: Lots of Depressing and Negative Posts ...
To be critical is a good thing, you shouldn't knock it. It's not about being negative or positive, it's about posting your views and allowing people to respond.
You can't expect everyone to agree, but by hearing a wide range of views you can be confident in your own view.
You can't expect everyone to agree, but by hearing a wide range of views you can be confident in your own view.