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Old Nov 27th 2011, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Beoz
This really should be thrown back on the employer, and I suspect most employers are not familar with the school fee bit, therefore catching a some out. Still, LAHFA is not designed to cover school fees anyway.
Yes, I'm aware of that, but those NSW fees are a hard hit to the pocket and a hit that nobody else, other than ACT, applies. It's going to make NSW pretty unattractive for anybody with a couple of kids.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 12:21 am
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Yes, I'm aware of that, but those NSW fees are a hard hit to the pocket and a hit that nobody else, other than ACT, applies. It's going to make NSW pretty unattractive for anybody with a couple of kids.
The former NSW governments have been pretty poor and let the state run into some serious problems. Education is just one of them. If the new government want to make some changes, and catch up with the other states, then this could be one of them.
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Originally Posted by Beoz
The former NSW governments have been pretty poor and let the state run into some serious problems. Education is just one of them. If the new government want to make some changes, and catch up with the other states, then this could be one of them.
NSW probably doesn't care if temporary workers go elsewhere. In fact, the federal government should force all 457 employers to pay for the school fees of their sponsored employees. Which takes the burden off the state governments and puts it on the employers (where it should be).
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Originally Posted by bingobob777
Except the non residents?

The ones who pay tax but get nothing for it. Everyone on a 457 is obviously needed by Ausyralia, imagine they all left, $350 million would be the least of their worries.
As cynical as it sounds, non-residents have limited rights, most of 457 visa holders have a take it or leave it deal and are in no position to bargain. Falling out of status with DIAC after losing your job is a good enough threat.

I agree with the earlier posts that employers should be picking up at least some of the cost, and I think some of them will. The economy of this LAFHA decision makes the choice of a permanent resident/citizen a more attractive one, to an employer, or other things being equal, puts the burden onto the employee in exchange for the work rights in Australia. Is it a fair trade-off or not, I wouldn't know.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 3:57 am
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retrospective question: was I elligible for LAFHA when I was here for two years as a temp resident before converting to a PR?

I made no investigation into it (it just didnt occur to me) so I just paid normal tax, with no benefit.

its too late now but should i am i stupid for doing that??
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
If employers want to bring in overseas workers they should be compensating them accordingly. Not expecting other tax payers to plug the gap in their earnings.
Scrapping Negative Gearing would also be a good thing. Never understood why we should give someone a tax break for deliberately running a loss.
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Originally Posted by papilon
Scrapping Negative Gearing would also be a good thing. Never understood why we should give someone a tax break for deliberately running a loss.
If I remember they did this once before. Do not know which gov it was.I agree why give a tax break for running at a loss,it might happen again that they remove this break as well. imagine the aftermath.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by swmbo63
imagine the aftermath.
Which would be a guaranteed election loss - with the opposition winning by saying that they will bring it back.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by swmbo63
If I remember they did this once before. Do not know which gov it was.I agree why give a tax break for running at a loss,it might happen again that they remove this break as well. imagine the aftermath.
I can never see a day they will scrap it retrospectively but it could get changed at some point for those about to buy an investment property in the future. It's incredible for all the talk of unaffordable housing that this one never gets debated in parliament. Both sides treat this as some kind of sacred cow for fear of upsetting the vested interests of the boomers.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Which would be a guaranteed election loss - with the opposition winning by saying that they will bring it back.
How the opposition can call themselves true conservatives when they are so addicted to middle class welfare is a joke.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by papilon
How the opposition can call themselves true conservatives when they are so addicted to middle class welfare is a joke.
I sort of agree. If NG'ing was dropped as some part of overall tax reform then fair enough, but if it was dropped on it's own to achieve some sort of socialist wealth redistribution exercise, then no way.

Most western governments - left and right - have varying forms of middle-class welfare.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 6:56 am
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retrospective question: was I elligible for LAFHA when I was here for two years as a temp resident before converting to a PR?

I made no investigation into it (it just didnt occur to me) so I just paid normal tax, with no benefit.

its too late now but should i am i stupid for doing that??
You were eligible, all 457s are by definition, you are working away from home. But afaik your employer should have done something for you to get the tax break. If it is too late or not, I would ask a tax accountant, if it is even possible, and file an amended declaration for the prior year if it is. have no answer to the stupid question, sorry.
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by In Exile
retrospective question: was I elligible for LAFHA when I was here for two years as a temp resident before converting to a PR?

I made no investigation into it (it just didnt occur to me) so I just paid normal tax, with no benefit.

its too late now but should i am i stupid for doing that??
Yep, stoopid! And so were we for about 5 years, so don't feel too bad
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by papilon
I can never see a day they will scrap it retrospectively but it could get changed at some point for those about to buy an investment property in the future. It's incredible for all the talk of unaffordable housing that this one never gets debated in parliament. Both sides treat this as some kind of sacred cow for fear of upsetting the vested interests of the boomers.
Bit like scrapping state governments. Political suicide. Can you imagine how many pollies have investement properties negatively geared?
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Old Nov 28th 2011, 9:23 pm
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From what I've been reading this morning, LAFHA's gone.
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