Job agencies in Aus
#4
Re: Job agencies in Aus
I applied for a job a couple of weeks ago, 178 applicants
Job hunting definately does suck!
Mandy
Job hunting definately does suck!
Mandy
#5
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When I was looking for work I signed up with about 12 agencies, I kid you not! And still had to find work off my own back - after going through all the cr*p - the registration, tests etc. Bearing in mind I had a really good CV and plenty of extremely good experience in Aus in my field - kept getting the "too good", or "overqualified" BS.
#6
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I would not use an agency to find work if there was an alternative (which there usually is).
#8
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You are nothing to them other than money.
If a job happens to be on their desk, they pull up all suitable candidate profiles and present to the client who they think likeliest to get the job. If that client doesn't happen to like what they see then that's you disposed of.
The reason recruitment agencies keep you on file is in case another job comes up. Saves them re-advertising. It's not because of your "special skills" like they tell you
And if they bring you in for an interview - it doesn't mean there's a job. They need to boost their candidate file so they have a choice if a job comes up
The job you may have applied for, and they've asked you to come in for, might not even exist
Also, it's the recruitment agencies who advise clients who to take. That's not necessarily based on your skills....it's based on who the recruitment agency think the client is likely to take. If you've got the best skills but are 40 and someone in their late 20's comes in - they will take a chance with the younger one first as they know their clients are likely to like the "look" of the younger guy so he's a more "sure bet"
Companies are too stupid to see they are being hoodwinked by agencies into taking those more likely to be "seen" as best rather than skills set. Most recruitment agencies don't even know how that job is performed.
If a recruitment agency knows a client doesn't like females or Asians, or people with foreign accents or different coloured skin, or over 40 - the recruitment agencies rule them out. It don't matter how good you are mate
The recruitment agencies want their money so they only put forward those who "fit the bill" with the client or their perception of what the client wants. Then when it goes pear shaped the business wonders why
This industry is not regulated nor do they need a licence to ensure they cover racism, sexism, ageism and because the companies themselves pass the work on to recruitment agencies, the companies then pass the buck for not recruiting people in a fair and equitable manner. In effect no one is responsible to ensure they keep within the law on sexism, racism, ageism.
The employment game is based purely on the recruitment agent wanting a sure buck, and the employer getting what they want rather than what they need.
In effect - recruitment agencies employ the market. So be nice to them
Frightening isn't it!
If a job happens to be on their desk, they pull up all suitable candidate profiles and present to the client who they think likeliest to get the job. If that client doesn't happen to like what they see then that's you disposed of.
The reason recruitment agencies keep you on file is in case another job comes up. Saves them re-advertising. It's not because of your "special skills" like they tell you
And if they bring you in for an interview - it doesn't mean there's a job. They need to boost their candidate file so they have a choice if a job comes up
The job you may have applied for, and they've asked you to come in for, might not even exist
Also, it's the recruitment agencies who advise clients who to take. That's not necessarily based on your skills....it's based on who the recruitment agency think the client is likely to take. If you've got the best skills but are 40 and someone in their late 20's comes in - they will take a chance with the younger one first as they know their clients are likely to like the "look" of the younger guy so he's a more "sure bet"
Companies are too stupid to see they are being hoodwinked by agencies into taking those more likely to be "seen" as best rather than skills set. Most recruitment agencies don't even know how that job is performed.
If a recruitment agency knows a client doesn't like females or Asians, or people with foreign accents or different coloured skin, or over 40 - the recruitment agencies rule them out. It don't matter how good you are mate
The recruitment agencies want their money so they only put forward those who "fit the bill" with the client or their perception of what the client wants. Then when it goes pear shaped the business wonders why
This industry is not regulated nor do they need a licence to ensure they cover racism, sexism, ageism and because the companies themselves pass the work on to recruitment agencies, the companies then pass the buck for not recruiting people in a fair and equitable manner. In effect no one is responsible to ensure they keep within the law on sexism, racism, ageism.
The employment game is based purely on the recruitment agent wanting a sure buck, and the employer getting what they want rather than what they need.
In effect - recruitment agencies employ the market. So be nice to them
Frightening isn't it!
#9
Re: Job agencies in Aus
If a recruitment agency knows a client doesn't like females or Asians, or people with foreign accents or different coloured skin, or over 40 - the recruitment agencies rule them out. It don't matter how good you are mateThe recruitment agencies want their money so they only put forward those who "fit the bill" with the client or their perception of what the client wants. Then when it goes pear shaped the business wonders why
No wonder I can't get a job then as I am female, overweight, Scottish accent and over 40. Anyone got a gun???
No wonder I can't get a job then as I am female, overweight, Scottish accent and over 40. Anyone got a gun???
#13
Auntie Fa
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,344
Re: Job agencies in Aus
I can't even pluck up the courage to contact any. Heading for 46, was in a senior position in the UK but no degree, so not sure where to pitch myself, and haven't had a "proper" job for over 6 years.
It's enough to turn a woman to drink; is it 5 o'clock yet? Yes it must be, somewhere in the world.
It's enough to turn a woman to drink; is it 5 o'clock yet? Yes it must be, somewhere in the world.
#14
Re: Job agencies in Aus
I can't even pluck up the courage to contact any. Heading for 46, was in a senior position in the UK but no degree, so not sure where to pitch myself, and haven't had a "proper" job for over 6 years.
It's enough to turn a woman to drink; is it 5 o'clock yet? Yes it must be, somewhere in the world.
It's enough to turn a woman to drink; is it 5 o'clock yet? Yes it must be, somewhere in the world.
An example - if you're willing to work in Coles on the meat counter - look greatin a hairnet and white overalls, well Australia thinks that's a lovely job for a girl your age so you'll do damn fine You could even be a dinner lady, tuckshop lady, PA [not secretary, sorry...too old]....or an Admin clerk, or office manager.
If however on the other hand you're not a bad looking 46 year old, with excellent skills, intelligent, smart, quick, willing to make improvements, worked in senior positions before, can give the men a good run for your money and are prepared to make changes in business for the better.
Then forget it.
What are you....mad
#15
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My wife also had really bad time with the main ones in Sydney CBD..had to go through all the tests, stress, etc and nothing came of it.
I'm sure that most agencies (UK & Oz) advertise jobs in newspapers that they don't actually have, just to get you to sign up with them.
When I moved jobs at one point in the UK, I signed up with a few agencies. After hearing nothing for a few months from the first one, I called them to be told, "We have put your CV forward to many companies, but they report back that your are not of a suitable social background" What the hell did that mean...I guess that they knew you could not argue with it i.e. if they said you do not have the right qualifications, work experience etc, you could say you did, but social background. BTW at that point I was 27, single, solvent, no police record and from a good family background. Maybe they were looking for drug dealers or something?
The second agency just threw a couple of company names at me and asked if I was interested in working for them. No actual care about how either I suited the poistion or the company would have wanted me.
My wife did find a job through a much smaller agency outside of the CBD in the end, that did seem a bit more professional and respectable...
I'm sure that most agencies (UK & Oz) advertise jobs in newspapers that they don't actually have, just to get you to sign up with them.
When I moved jobs at one point in the UK, I signed up with a few agencies. After hearing nothing for a few months from the first one, I called them to be told, "We have put your CV forward to many companies, but they report back that your are not of a suitable social background" What the hell did that mean...I guess that they knew you could not argue with it i.e. if they said you do not have the right qualifications, work experience etc, you could say you did, but social background. BTW at that point I was 27, single, solvent, no police record and from a good family background. Maybe they were looking for drug dealers or something?
The second agency just threw a couple of company names at me and asked if I was interested in working for them. No actual care about how either I suited the poistion or the company would have wanted me.
My wife did find a job through a much smaller agency outside of the CBD in the end, that did seem a bit more professional and respectable...