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Old Mar 2nd 2005, 10:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Koza
Running from where? What sort of warfare is in Russia?
Two scoundrels...
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/a...ism/russia.cfm

  • Anti-Semitic rhetoric was featured in comments by some candidates in the campaign for the State Duma (Parliament) in December 2003 and the Presidential elections in March 2004. The same tendency was observed during some mayoral and gubernatorial elections in a number of regions of the Russian Federation;
  • The Government has started demonstrating some political will in the prosecution of perpetrators in anti-Jewish activities and statements; however, these efforts have not filtered down to lower-level state officials.
  • While the September 11 terrorist attack led to widespread pro-American and pro-Jewish attitudes, the war in Iraq has provoked a new wave of anti-Semitic/anti-Israeli sentiment.
  • The prosecution of a number of prominent business leaders, commonly known as “oligarchs,â€? some of whom have Jewish origins, appears to have bolstered anti-Semitic attitudes among susceptible elements of the population
In 2003 the following types of anti-Semitic incidents were reported:

  • violence against Jews and Jewish organizations
  • anti-Semitic propaganda via mass-media, the internet, and publications
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Running from where? What sort of warfare is in Russia?
Two scoundrels...
Have you heard of Chechnya?
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Originally Posted by NedKelly
I was facing persecution in the UK because I am white and therefore a second class citizen in my own country. Many UK laws now give preferential treatment to ethnic minorities. I was facing persecution because I am a Christian. As an example, my son's school cancelled the nativity play because it might offend Muslims and it now no longer has a morning assembly where hymns were sung. As far as politics is concerned I was persecuted by the Government because I owned my own house, a few shares and some investment property, so I am considered to be a filthy rich property owning enemy of the people who should rightly be targeted by Gordon Browns 60 stealth taxes.
Grenade! I'm diving for cover here...
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Originally Posted by NedKelly
Not a bad idea, they certainly know how to treat women!
Oh dear, another argument out of the window.
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How far reaching are the implications of this case?
Considering that control of the Senate is more elusive than control of the House, I think the Coalition's priority will be to 'make hay while the sun shines'.

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Originally Posted by wombat42
l think johnny howard will find some way to overule the high court by amending the legislation or something,
It's not a question of 'overruling' the High Court.

In a democracy, elected representatives make the laws, while unelected judges *interpret* them.

If judges interpret the law in a way that is not to the liking of Parliament, the Parliament is free to change the law. And the Australian community is free to express its opinion at the following general election.

Unless it's a constitutional matter in which case a change can only be made by a referendum vote of the Australian people (including a majority of States).

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Have you heard of ?
You don't have to travel nearly half way round the world to Australia just to get away from Chechnya.
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Ot that grounds all world population may move here.. there is always someone who says "bloody pom" or "sheep-loving kiwi"

No, it's redicilous.
As about Chechnya - so are they running from Chechenians or from antisemits? I guess, they are just "way too smart" economic migrants.
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Originally Posted by Larissa
I think it's a great ruling and a victory for human rights. What we go through for visa applications is *nothing* in comparison to what some of these poor guys go through. Last week I met some lovely Sudanese guys and I found their stories heartbreaking. I'd much rather share a drink and some tucker with some those guys than someone who thinks he's better than someone else purely because he's been able to buy his way into the country.
Maybe some of you should go live with Sharia law.

Larissa,

The majority of people who enter a country under the asylum seeker banner do so because they are in reality economic migrants and western countries make it almost impossible for them to enter through other channels. Geniune asylum seekers travel to the first save country, who are obliged to accept them under the UN Charter, they do not travel cross continent for reach their preferred destination. Australia is only obliged to take asylum seekers from countries where it is the first safe country. Russia -> Australia does not meet this criteria nor does Sudan -> Australia.

The 'Human rights' industry has nothing to do with protecting human rights rather the implementation of extreme political correctness to the detriment of the wider community. These are the same people who patronise non-Christians with the banning of nativity plays and idolise people like Jihad Jack.

"Maybe some of you should go live with Sharia law".
We might not have to soon, it may well come to us.

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Originally Posted by NedKelly
I was facing persecution in the UK because I am white and therefore a second class citizen in my own country. Many UK laws now give preferential treatment to ethnic minorities. I was facing persecution because I am a Christian. As an example, my son's school cancelled the nativity play because it might offend Muslims and it now no longer has a morning assembly where hymns were sung. As far as politics is concerned I was persecuted by the Government because I owned my own house, a few shares and some investment property, so I am considered to be a filthy rich property owning enemy of the people who should rightly be targeted by Gordon Browns 60 stealth taxes.

Oh yeah, the poor oppressed homeowning white male Christians Well, I hope you vote for Michael Howard next time, you deserve him.
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Originally Posted by karenjc
I live in Birmingham which in 2 years the white population will be the minority. I think this shows the fact that the UK is a tolerent place but we must draw the line some where.
I think you'll find the vast majority of non-white Birmingahm residents are legal residents of the UK, many with a long UK parentage. You're suggesting what exactly? Stop non-whites breeding? Disperse the non-white UK citizens forcibly to other cities when your 'line' is crossed?
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Originally Posted by bondipom
Per head of population the UK accepts far less than some of the nations you list. You sound like a Daily Mail reader or is it the Express.
Which ones exactly?

Stormz you cannot make comments like that without being accused of being a tinpot Nazi.
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The 'Human rights' industry has nothing to do with protecting human rights rather the implementation of extreme political correctness to the detriment of the wider community. These are the same people who patronise non-Christians with the banning of nativity plays and idolise people like Jihad Jack.
Articulately put RG.

And what's more, we don't need the likes of Human Rights lawyers like Cherie Blair coming over here and lecturing us on it, under the guise of raising money for charity. Especially when that champagne socialist makes more money out of the trip than the charity.
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Lets put Saddam in charge. He knew what to do with human rights. The standard of grammar here is also worse than that of most migrants I know.
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Originally Posted by Ruptured gonad
Which ones exactly?

Stormz you cannot make comments like that without being accused of being a tinpot Nazi.
http://www.unhcr.org.uk/info/briefin...ues/myths.html

"Britain Tops the Asylum League"
Daily Express, 1/3/02
IN FACT…

  • In 2001 the total number of people who applied for asylum was 88,300.
  • This compares to 98,900 in 2000 and represents an 11% decrease.
  • Of the industrialised countries Germany, with 88,363 applications in 2001 is the top destination for asylum seekers, followed by the UK and USA (86,394).
  • Per capita, the UK, received far few asylum applications in 2001 than most other western European countries.
  • The UK ranked tenth after Austria, Norway, Switzerland, Belgium, Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands and Luxembourg.
  • The number of asylum seekers the UK accepted is only 0.5% of its population
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