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Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
Mar 26th 2007, 12:13 am
#16
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I reckon that those folks most likely to return quickly are the ones who are heavily reliant on friends and family. Doesn't need much further explaination. If you've got a wide social circle, can always get a babysitter, had to extend your mantelpiece to fit all the xmas cards on and you're emigrating because it's an adventure then cancel the flights, take the house off the market and try white-water rafting instead.
It is good advice though!
Buzzy - your theory probably applies to some people but it's too huge a generalisation to cover everyone who moves here, some of who may be happy and some who aren't. But good attempt at trying to nail it!
Mar 26th 2007, 1:22 am
#17
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Joined: Apr 2004
Location: Perth
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
We liked the UK, we also like Australia. Things that will make you a success here are the same as they would be anywhere in the world. If you are mortgages up to the eyes, have no social life, and are always working, then you wont be particularly happy, because you arent in a position to enjoy what your chosen country has to offer, so you are always chasing your tail. If you have reduced working hours, little or no mortgage, and a full social calender, then the chances are you are probably happy, doesnt matter where your house happens to be. A positive outlook on life definitely helps if you have migrated.
Mar 26th 2007, 3:51 am
#18
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
What he said, spot on.
Mar 26th 2007, 3:54 am
#19
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I don't think it's that simple, from what I have read here and what I know about people I'd say everyone is different then multiply that by the size of the family, your upbringing and your experiences when you arrive plus the reactions of those you leave behind then you are getting there.
Nothing is black and white in life though your own attitude is a major factor I guess.
Nothing is black and white in life though your own attitude is a major factor I guess.
Mar 26th 2007, 4:11 am
#20
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Joined: Mar 2005
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
Yes,I agree.
Whiners and whingers will always be just that,no matter where they live.
Whiners and whingers will always be just that,no matter where they live.
Mar 26th 2007, 4:54 am
#22
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I disagree with you. Australia is a modern, vibrant nation. It is not perfect, but compared to the UK the scales of the problems are a lot less. I find everything more effecient, the people happier, the kids better behaved and the weather is a huge bonus.
There are a lot of Brits who want to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine with their country (I have got a good paying job and a good circle of family and friends so stuff what is happening in society!) The Aussies seems much more community minded IMO.
There are a lot of Brits who want to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine with their country (I have got a good paying job and a good circle of family and friends so stuff what is happening in society!) The Aussies seems much more community minded IMO.
Mar 26th 2007, 6:15 am
#23
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
There are a lot of Brits who want to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine with their country (I have got a good paying job and a good circle of family and friends so stuff what is happening in society!) The Aussies seems much more community minded IMO.
Mar 26th 2007, 6:24 am
#24
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I disagree with you. Australia is a modern, vibrant nation. It is not perfect, but compared to the UK the scales of the problems are a lot less. I find everything more effecient, the people happier, the kids better behaved and the weather is a huge bonus.
There are a lot of Brits who want to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine with their country (I have got a good paying job and a good circle of family and friends so stuff what is happening in society!) The Aussies seems much more community minded IMO.
There are a lot of Brits who want to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine with their country (I have got a good paying job and a good circle of family and friends so stuff what is happening in society!) The Aussies seems much more community minded IMO.
Mar 26th 2007, 6:24 am
#25
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Joined: Oct 2003
Location: Brisbane, QLD
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
Money, money, money, if you bring enough with you then you've got more chance of a better start.......better suburb, nicer people etc......
Mar 26th 2007, 6:34 am
#26
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21418282-2,00.html
Mar 26th 2007, 6:35 am
#27
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I was just talking about that on another thread...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21418282-2,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21418282-2,00.html
Mar 26th 2007, 7:10 am
#28
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I disagree. I voted NO.
We were fed up with the UK. My sisters son had tried several school in very good areas and the bullying was in most of the schools especially high schools
We did not want this for our kids.
We were fed up lots of other things too.
So went to another country. Only in the EU. But kids and us settled brilliantly. And very happy here.
However our dream has always been Australia but this has been nice stepping stone to getting out of the UK. Also got the kids used to living away.
I would not go back to the UK. But now know I can settle in most countries. As we all like it here, I have also worked in Berlin for a few months before we came here. Loved Berlin too.
So know, I dislike things about the UK. But happily settled in two non speaking Euro countries.
So not expecting any problems.
If you read through many posts of people unhappy. Its usually more to do with leaving relatives behind in the UK. These people miss their parents and friends too much. Or others like Aus but find there trade is not as easy to transfer - eg blokes who have worked for 20 years on a job going back to apprentiship wages! A lot say they like Aus but cant cope with seperation from family. I think seperation is probably the No1 reason for coming back or so called moaning.
Gems
We were fed up with the UK. My sisters son had tried several school in very good areas and the bullying was in most of the schools especially high schools
We did not want this for our kids.
We were fed up lots of other things too.
So went to another country. Only in the EU. But kids and us settled brilliantly. And very happy here.
However our dream has always been Australia but this has been nice stepping stone to getting out of the UK. Also got the kids used to living away.
I would not go back to the UK. But now know I can settle in most countries. As we all like it here, I have also worked in Berlin for a few months before we came here. Loved Berlin too.
So know, I dislike things about the UK. But happily settled in two non speaking Euro countries.
So not expecting any problems.
If you read through many posts of people unhappy. Its usually more to do with leaving relatives behind in the UK. These people miss their parents and friends too much. Or others like Aus but find there trade is not as easy to transfer - eg blokes who have worked for 20 years on a job going back to apprentiship wages! A lot say they like Aus but cant cope with seperation from family. I think seperation is probably the No1 reason for coming back or so called moaning.
Gems
Mar 26th 2007, 7:51 am
#29
Where's the factor 30.
Joined: May 2006
Location: Mango Hill QLD
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
I voted NO.I hated the fact that my kids couldnt go outside to play back home.(Traffic ,but mainly drunks ,junkies and horrible little chav kids) They can play outside here .In glorious sunshine most of the time too
Mar 26th 2007, 8:04 am
#30
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Re: Here's my theory about what makes migration more likely to be successful....
Interesting.
EXACTLY 50/50 split at the moment.
Some very valid comments made.
Buzzy
EXACTLY 50/50 split at the moment.
Some very valid comments made.
Buzzy