DrWho

Cool...!

That'll teach iPom... It's not how big your bucket is... it's how shiny...

Womat

Fair enough. Wish you well for the future Teabag, hope it's everything you want it to be.

moneypenny20

Wouldn't know him if I fell over him. If you think that is wading in, you obviously know even less about me than you do him I just get irritated that someone - anyone gets abuse because they have forthright opinions and haven't yet got bored with other people making huge generalisations about places.

I seem to have missed the post where the OP has been put down for wanting to give it a go. Can you show me please.

iPom

Yeah, I see what you mean. Tricky position you guys are in too, if you're headed back. Doesn't make for great moods.

iPom

Wendy! Back off. He's mine.... mine, I tell you!

blowfly

Go back and have a look it not that difficult.It is true that the poster as no point of reference but how many times for goodness sake do we get posters who think oz is all that after a tv programme and they also have no real point of reference. If I was to tell some one that they had no point of reference of thinking oz was all that, you would be up in arms about it because some posters seem to think it's good for everyone. It also seems to me that only certain posters can have forthright opinons. I get irritated by people who want to put down, have a go, because the poster wants to give somewhere else a go. Unfortunatley that place is the Uk and we all now that can't be good can it?

nik04

Sort answer you dont know how good or how bad a place is until you try it yourself. No one else can tell you whats good for you.

chrispy

Hi Ally,
No, we don't have children yet but plan to, that may make our situation easier i guess as children add another layer of complexity when it comes to relocating to the other side of the world. If they are young i think they will adapt better. I know when i was a child i had friends who lived in Africa and was extreamly jealous ofm the lifestyle they enjoyed during the holidays... I just think that not only are the facilities in the schools int he Uk declining but that the media constantly undermine things and the Governments obsession with tables and targets just turns us into a nation that revolve around being better than the 'Jones's. It seems like you cannot do anything now without contravening some law or infringing on someones rights, Maybe Aus is going the same way but at the moment it seems a better prospect to me.

Good luck with what ever you decide, take comments posted by people here who seem to be more interested in slagging each other rather than helping answer your question off with a pinch of salt (adds to the amusement) and make up your mind based on everything you read... research as much as you can, and if possible go for a holiday before.

Cheers

Chris

Hutch

Actually, if you ever bothered to leave the 'moving back' forum other than than to go on one-man crusades against us filthy stinking Oz-lovers, you'd know that wasn't the case. I realise that facts are in short supply in that parallel dimension you seem to inhabit, but even a cursory browse through the threads on this forum will find countless examples of people who get 'same shit shinier bucket' chanted to them ad nauseum if they suggest they're leaving the UK because Oz is somehow 'better'. Nobody was 'put down' because they wanted to give somewhere else 'a go' - they were merely asked how they could possibly know the grass was greener when they hadn't even peered over the fence.

Teabag

Never actually stated that UK grass was greener, just wanted to go and try.
Did say Perth grass ain't so green though

youngy73

strike cairns off your your list but the grass is always greener up here

Bishop3912

Hi Ally

OH is currently searching the web sites and government sites applying for loads of jobs in IT Project Management, (has been doing so for a week) so far no responses but early days yet, I too am worried about the IT job situation from what people are posting on the sites, seems to be who you know not what you know market in Oz from what they are saying. Also we know that wages will be a lot lower that over here so just seeing what is around at moment, obviously as he is the only one that works he will need to earn a decent amount of money. As to airlines, first time we flew we used Quantas who we found to be great with the kids and us (good freebies for them)(night flight left UK late afternoon) (but that was 3 years ago, don't know what they are like now), Emirates was used this time, they were ok (again night flight, left UK late afternoon) didn't find them as good, first leg of journey had a lovely what seemed new plane, second leg from Dubai had a smaller plane and was quite run down (same coming back) some of the staff were ok but most of them didn't bother to assist us when we needed help or wanted something, during "night time" all staff disappeared and never even answered the buzzers. So personally I would only use Emirates again if they were the cheapest, they did however have good entertainment system and food was good, especially the kids meals. Don't know whether we were just unlucky on both trips though as only grip to sum it up was the staffs attentivness which we personally found to be poor. Have been told Singapore Airlines are the best to use so we will be using them next time. From research that we have done Perth seems to be very well suited to people with young families, it has lovely beaches and is always hot, winter is still warm compared to UK (just need jumpers etc but can get quite chilly at night), schools we looked at around Ocean Reef area seem to be good, we looked at Ocean Reef Primary and Beaumaris, we liked Beaumaris the best (and also because we have family already at this school). House prices in Perth have risen though so you dont get as much for your money, journey to CBD is only about 35-40 minutes so not far for OH to travel to work. Adelaide has cheaper housing, gets great weather (not as hot as Perth) has lovely parks, again family orientated and most suburbs are a 20 minute drive to CBD, lovely beaches and slightly more seasonish, dont know about schooling as yet to find out. Tasmania getts the proper seasons, summer is a more bearable 70ish, gets a normal winter, nice beaches, work is a bit less here than mainland but the only way I can describe Tas is it is like Cornwall in England to a degree and very similar to New Zealand, again schools not sure about yet as still finding out. Again these are only my personal opinions and are only based on the three areas that we are interested in moving too. As I said on my previous post Gold Coast Queensland was not for us as I didn't like the humidity and some other things and Sydney was just to much like London for my liking and too expensive for housing for us. Hope this helps. Good luck. Corinne

Southerncross

I wonder how long you will be in thrall of castle ruins and old churches... chances are you will be living in a town in the UK where the houses have been built in the last century... and they are all the same all along the street (and no gardens or wildlife.)

RachaelW

Hi Ally
My Mum was born in Australia - Adelaide (her family emigrated, had her and moved back when she was 12) so she has no probs getting in. My Dad is a surveyor so can get in and my brother is hoping to go as a family member. My husband is a welder so no probs there either. I think you are right with this, now would be the time to go. My mum has always wanted to go back and just keeps wondering what it would be like to live there.
As for why England is so rubbish, well all the things listed: government, chavves, weather, SAT's and school league tables, OfSTED (all the annoying things in a teacher's life) crime, shootings, muggings angry people in general. Fear lies in walking out of your house, who knows if you'll make it back without someone random person randomly shooting you or trying to blow you up!
Rachael.

RachaelW

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Good luck with what ever you decide, take comments posted by people here who seem to be more interested in slagging each other rather than helping answer your question off with a pinch of salt (adds to the amusement) and make up your mind based on everything you read... research as much as you can, and if possible go for a holiday before.

Cheers

Chris[/QUOTE]

I was finding this thread really interesting until everyone wandered of the point and created 2 pages of nonsense. Could we keep it to advice so everyone can gain form it without having to read a totally different conversation?
I don't want abuse or comments about this, just suggesting it would be more productive.
Rachael.