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Old Mar 27th 2007, 2:43 pm
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Hi all,


I am having a big dilemma and really don’t know what to do.

My idea of immigrating to AU was: get a visa, find a job, buy a ticket.
I finally got the visa and applied to 30 or so ads (Melbourne, full time, permanent) in the last 2 weeks. Got only 2 replies from humans, both saying they were not interested.

What do you think, should I keep applying and wait, or should I move ASAP? I found people on forums saying that a person not present in AU has no chance of getting a job.
My CO told me they would send me a form for getting into a new employee database, something related to MODL professions, and that it should help me in finding a job.
I haven’t gotten it yet.

What’s your job hunting experience? Is it wise to look only for permanent jobs, or maybe it is better to try with short contracts?
In case I got an offer, is it okay to ask to sign a contract or ask for any kind of guarantee?


Please share your experience and opinions.

Many thanks.

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Old Mar 27th 2007, 2:48 pm
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hi
what do you do??
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Old Mar 27th 2007, 2:52 pm
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Hi,

I am a system administrator (IT guy) with 7+ years experience.

Thanks for asking. ;-)
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I have no idea when it comes to IT staff. It is possible to secure work whilst still in the UK. I have a job to go to, but I'm a nurse.

Good luck.

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Hi,

I am a system administrator (IT guy) with 7+ years experience.

Thanks for asking. ;-)
Do you have certifications for your line of work? e.g. MCSE etc?
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Thanks Tracey.

I know there are much many options in the UK, but I am in Bosnia.
There is one good thing in my case and that is a fact that all “companies” I worked for were international organizations implementing projects in Bosnia (EC, EU, WB...)
and I believe my experience should not be questioned. But who knows.
I got 7.5 on IELTS and found that employers demand at least 7 for “more serious” positions.


Sure G77, I have MCSE 2000 (2002), MCSE 2003 (2004), CCNA (2003) and CCNP (2005); but I am far above those requirements. I explained it in my resume on 7 pages.

Also I was assessed as a net sec specialist by ACS, but I didn't write about security things in details.
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Certainly sounds like you have the experience and qualifications - strange that you've only had a couple of replies
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Originally Posted by Zoran
Hi all,


I am having a big dilemma and really don’t know what to do.

My idea of immigrating to AU was: get a visa, find a job, buy a ticket.
I finally got the visa and applied to 30 or so ads (Melbourne, full time, permanent) in the last 2 weeks. Got only 2 replies from humans, both saying they were not interested.

What do you think, should I keep applying and wait, or should I move ASAP? I found people on forums saying that a person not present in AU has no chance of getting a job.
My CO told me they would send me a form for getting into a new employee database, something related to MODL professions, and that it should help me in finding a job.
I haven’t gotten it yet.

What’s your job hunting experience? Is it wise to look only for permanent jobs, or maybe it is better to try with short contracts?
In case I got an offer, is it okay to ask to sign a contract or ask for any kind of guarantee?


Please share your experience and opinions.

Many thanks.

Zoran
I have heard you have to "knock on doors" to get a job ???

All the best...
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Originally Posted by G77
Certainly sounds like you have the experience and qualifications - strange that you've only had a couple of replies
Yes, definitely strange, and I applied only to the positions that were a high match to my experience. Maybe I should wait several weeks more and see what will happen. If I don’t get anything in 2 months I would better be moving.
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Might be worth getting a professional to look over your CV/Resume also, just in case it's not representing you in the best light!
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Originally Posted by mindblower
I have heard you have to "knock on doors" to get a job ???

All the best...

That's quite possible, but it's weird that you can find many ads being reposted every ~7 days, like they can’t find what they need. And job descriptions are very tiny, maybe agencies testing the labor supply.
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That's quite possible, but it's weird that you can find many ads being reposted every ~7 days, like they can’t find what they need. And job descriptions are very tiny, maybe agencies testing the labor supply.
Zoran,

It is possible to be offered posts from overseas (I know because I have been offered more than 1 post) but you would do well to get a professional look over your CV. Forget what you think is correct and do it the Australian way.

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Old Mar 27th 2007, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by G77
Might be worth getting a professional to look over your CV/Resume also, just in case it's not representing you in the best light!
Well, I am sure that might help, but the fact is I spent literally months on rewriting it for the ACS, used http://www.blueskyresumes.com/ ‘s guide and tested it here in 2 banks (real interviews), both times was told “it’s an impressive resume”.

If anybody interested in the guide I can send it as you can’t find it online anymore, although you may subscribe to the free course and get the same thing in 5 emails. This is a pdf doc.



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Zoran,

It is possible to be offered posts from overseas (I know because I have been offered more than 1 post) but you would do well to get a professional look over your CV. Forget what you think is correct and do it the Australian way.

Bezza

Bezza, would you recommend somebody? I subscribed to several IT agencies (Paxus, Sapphire, Greythorn, RMA...) but nobody offered help in these matters. Maybe I should call them.

Thanks

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I work part time for a recruitment agency and honestly we don't usually bother with resumes from people overseas. If the client wants to meet you, how are you going to get here for the interview? Saying that, some people have had better luck with getting jobs from overseas, but as a general rule I would say it's better to be here. Employers like to see an Australian address and phone number on the top of that resume so they know you are available for work NOW.
Another thing I suggest is that you include what type of visa you have been granted, whether it's a permanent or temporary and what work rights you have, whether regional or unrestricted.
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Hi Dorothy,

Thanks for the first hand information and suggestions, but this is probably a more specific issue.
When you consider hiring an IT guy with specific knowledge and experience, you always consider overseas people. It’s nothing specific to Australia, it’s so in the USA, the UK, Ireland, the rest of EU… everywhere. Also, phone interviews are something quite normal everywhere in the world.
Available now is somebody without a job. I can’t quit in 2 days, no matter if I’m in Australia or Alaska. I am supposed, and usually obliged by the contract, to provide a notice, 2 weeks-30 days in advance, and only maybe to discuss with my current employer about a possibility of leaving earlier.

I know it’s much easier when people can meet but, when I think about moving there without a job offer it looks more like gambling then like a planned relocation. I thought migration is a win-win game, and I still hope it is. :-) Time will show…
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