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Old Dec 23rd 2009, 8:53 am
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A quick recap, the whole point of this discussion is that :

1- You know what discrimination is so learn to hate it.
2- You might be the next so see something? say something.

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PS. I appreciate Ren's post - nice/real world example.
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Originally Posted by Barbitana
I and many others posting here were beaten with it
Beaten with an umbrella? With or without consent?
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Old Dec 23rd 2009, 8:57 am
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http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=umbrella

Noun

S: (n) umbrella (a lightweight handheld collapsible canopy)
S: (n) umbrella (a formation of military planes maintained over ground operations or targets) "an air umbrella over England"
S: (n) umbrella (having the function of uniting a group of similar things) "the Democratic Party is an umbrella for many liberal groups"; "under the umbrella of capitalism"
Adjective

S: (adj) umbrella (covering or applying simultaneously to a number of similar items or elements or groups) "an umbrella organization"; "umbrella insurance coverage"


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Beaten with an umbrella? With or without consent?
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Old Dec 23rd 2009, 9:03 am
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http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=umbrella

Noun

S: (n) umbrella (a lightweight handheld collapsible canopy)
S: (n) umbrella (a formation of military planes maintained over ground operations or targets) "an air umbrella over England"
S: (n) umbrella (having the function of uniting a group of similar things) "the Democratic Party is an umbrella for many liberal groups"; "under the umbrella of capitalism"
Adjective

S: (adj) umbrella (covering or applying simultaneously to a number of similar items or elements or groups) "an umbrella organization"; "umbrella insurance coverage"
So the umbrella beater also beat you with a dictionary? With or without consent?
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Just cross your fingers that the same thing never ever happens to you buddy - doesnt taste good at all

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So the umbrella beater also beat you with a dictionary? With or without consent?
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Originally Posted by Barbitana
Just cross your fingers that the same thing never ever happens to you buddy - doesnt taste good at all
You were beaten with an umbrella and licked the dictionary? With or without consent?
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Originally Posted by WillBlack
It is possible to define black as being light of all colours (ie white) and white as being no light of any colour (ie black), true. But is it? Where is it written in English Law that discrimination by national origins, for example, is racial discrimination?

Am I missing something here?

Someone here said that white British cannot be racist against white Aussie because they are both white???

What? Of course they can!!

Racist does not allude to colour but to race: English Vs Aussie or other....

Isn't this the correct understanding??

If you extend my definition of race, you could have a black English or black Aussie, but still English or Aussie as race?

It seems some people are so hung up about their colour??

Colour makes you nothing...

About India and/China comments, I know how much the Chinese girls like White male, (maybe another can of worm, but can we add this to the discussion here??) and is this not an indication of racist act by the Chinese girls?

My race? English!
(But please don't hold it against me )
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Originally Posted by Syedney
Am I missing something here?

Someone here said that white British cannot be racist against white Aussie because they are both white???

What? Of course they can!!

Racist does not allude to colour but to race: English Vs Aussie or other....

Isn't this the correct understanding??

If you extend my definition of race, you could have a black English or black Aussie, but still English or Aussie as race?

It seems some people are so hung up about their colour??

Colour makes you nothing...

About India and/China comments, I know how much the Chinese girls like White male, (maybe another can of worm, but can we add this to the discussion here??) and is this not an indication of racist act by the Chinese girls?

My race? English!
(But please don't hold it against me )
I agree. In this day and age, race has to go beyond the basic races that exist. Most accept that.
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by Syedney
Am I missing something here?

Someone here said that white British cannot be racist against white Aussie because they are both white???

What? Of course they can!!

Racist does not allude to colour but to race: English Vs Aussie or other....

Isn't this the correct understanding??

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I disagree. Racism is between races, discrimination is between nations. UK or Australia does not contain one race but rather one nation.
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Originally Posted by Syedney
Am I missing something here?

Someone here said that white British cannot be racist against white Aussie because they are both white???

What? Of course they can!!

Racist does not allude to colour but to race: English Vs Aussie or other....

Isn't this the correct understanding??

If you extend my definition of race, you could have a black English or black Aussie, but still English or Aussie as race?

It seems some people are so hung up about their colour??

Colour makes you nothing...

About India and/China comments, I know how much the Chinese girls like White male, (maybe another can of worm, but can we add this to the discussion here??) and is this not an indication of racist act by the Chinese girls?

My race? English!
(But please don't hold it against me )
Here is the meaning of the word race.

"English" means you are a subject of the dominion of England. You could be any race.

The classification of people by race is sufficiently imprecise as to be near useless for the purposes of determining if inequitable discrimination has occured.
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Old Dec 23rd 2009, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by kporte
I agree. In this day and age, race has to go beyond the basic races that exist. Most accept that.
That might be the case in England where the peoples vocabulary is limited so that many forms of inequitable discrimination are labelled racism for want of a more appropriate word.

It is not the case in Australia where the people have a larger vocabulary.
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Originally Posted by WillBlack
That might be the case in England where the peoples vocabulary is limited so that many forms of inequitable discrimination are labelled racism for want of a more appropriate word.

It is not the case in Australia where the people have a larger vocabulary.
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Originally Posted by kporte
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Might I suggest the word "parachute"?

Umbrella would be inappropriate and inadequate.
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Originally Posted by WillBlack
That might be the case in England where the peoples vocabulary is limited so that many forms of inequitable discrimination are labelled racism for want of a more appropriate word.

It is not the case in Australia where the people have a larger vocabulary.
Thought i would throw in my 2 cents worth.First of all discrimination is an act not a "thougth" process. Australia is obliged under the Human rights Act 1998 to treat races equally. The Act also classes religion as a "race"
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Originally Posted by kooga
Thought i would throw in my 2 cents worth.First of all discrimination is an act not a "thougth" process. Australia is obliged under the Human rights Act 1998 to treat races equally. The Act also classes religion as a "race"
Australia does not legislate against thought processes, only acts.

Australia is not obliged in any way under the British Human Rights Act 1998.
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