goosieboy30

My wife and I have just passed our skills assessment and have just send away for our permanent resident visa.
I am pretty stunned as I am a steel erector/Rigging supervisor of 10 years but still I have to re sit all my courses as they are not recognised in Australia. I find this pretty hard to take as what I've researched shows me that the Opito/NVQ standard that I currently hold is far more in depth and Recognised around the world. I personally think it's another money making scheme.
They should take a leaf out the rest of the world and bring in trade tests, that way the chancers of the world can be found out.
I just hope now that my current company can find me the transfer I desire which won't mean me being bled dry before I've even landed.

I'm sorry this is a bit of a rant, it's just my view on the whole situation.

Pollyana

I should warn you thaat even if you get a transfer within the company, you may still need to do some courses in order to legally work here. Many tradespeople have to do a lot of re-qualifying when they arrive.

goosieboy30

Not with my current company Pollyana, I will hopefully be working in Singapore on a 4 and 4 rotation

Swerv-o

Yup, lots of de-skilling needed to reach Australian standards...




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GarryP

"Australia qualifications for Australian conditions; wouldn't want any of those foreign qualifications, they wouldn't stand up to the environment."



Frankly the "you're English, you are going to have to take a test to prove you can speak English as well as us Australians" has always struck me as more than a little back to front.

At heart, IMHO, Australians a form tickers and suffer from qualificationitus. It follows from them being mainly followers rather than instigators - they look for proof they can tick a form, not the wider, or more tacit aspects of skill and competence. And they are 'not invented here' until it's been sanctioned by someone else, and put on the form.

Beoz

Australian middle management job protection. Too incompetent to judge a good candidate without ticking the boxes.

Thanks to the Y gen, we may be seeing some changes.

http://mobile.news.com.au/finance/work/employers-rejecting-gen-y-graduates-with-over-inflated-view-of-their-worth/story-fnkgbb3b-1227489952697

goosieboy30

I apologise if my statement was a bit demeaning, it was not intended to be. It is just these qualifications are recognised in 90% of the world and research has showed me that the level in Australia is slightly behind the standard quality.
most trades around the world are vast becoming extinct, now employers are now looking at doubling trades up, sometimes trebling it up.
there is just about no longer "Rigger" "scaffolder" "pipefitter" "plater"

these are all now "Rigger/Scaffolder" or "plater/Rigger/Scaffolder" these are all so companies can squeeze as much out the person for minimum spend.
to me this is wrong for lots of reasons, surely 1 tradesman has to specialised in his field, this is where accidents happen and men find themselves unemployed because there company has found a man that will do 2 jobs for the price of 1 man. I am sorry but its al wrong and this is not just happening in Australia, its now becoming a trend all over the world.

spouse of scouse

Jesus H Christ, it must be 'All Australians Are Dickheads' week

I'm going over to MBTUK, the British expats over there only whinge about the UK

spouse of scouse

I don't think pipefitter was ever a recognized trade here, it wasn't 25 years ago anyway. My husband's a pipey from the UK - he's had no trouble getting offshore work but there's no trade known as a pipey.

verystormy

Be aware this will cause issues down the track.

Your visas travel entitlement - the ability to leave and enter Australia - expires after 5 years. For most people that is not an issue, as they can put in for citizenship after 4 years. However, it is a condition of citizenship, that you have not been out of the country for more than 12 months in the last 4 years in total and no more than 90 days in the 12 months prior to application. This nearly caught me out.

BadgeIsBack

Know you're smiling but it's rubbish..I haven't had to deal with 1 awkward reg or rule in 13 years...

Sorry mate but it's the plebs that tend to agonise about these things..

BadgeIsBack

Nonsense. In my field there is barely a form for anything and if there is, it's for good reason; as a rule we work globally quite happily across time zones...

mikelincs

Try Canada or the US, there you will also have to retrain to do your current job, in the states even worse because each state has different requirements, so just a move to the next state might mean some retraining in many proffessions.

Pollyana

Lucky for you that you are so far above the rest of us then and don't need to worry.....