UK citizenship rule
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UK citizenship rule
Just wondered how many people don't know that a child born in Aus to a Brit born in UK is British?
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Sometimes that's the case, sometimes not. Depends on the circumstances and the date of birth. As a general rule I suspect most people would realise that they would have some entitlement (unless they were a Member of Parliament obviously :P)
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The opposite seems to be more true, that despite their grandparents and earlier ancestors having been British some people can't get their head around the idea that they aren't already British and entitled to a British passport.
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If you don't travel, and plenty don't, there's no need to query it.
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Until they do so on their British passports to visit the 'old country' and get turn away from their return flights.
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Plenty don't even travel in the first place and therefore have no passport and subsequently no clue what their citizenship is or just assume they are Australian by length of living.
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Because there's no digital record of their immigration status. They arrived as ten pounds poms as babes in arms in the '50s and '60s and never had any subsequent interaction with DIBP. They are permanent residents but it relies on digging through old microfiches or immigration cards to prove it. As they didn't provide DIBP with their passport details before they left they end up getting stuck in the UK until their status is confirmed.
Very true and as they can also vote there's no disadvantage if they don't travel. Unless they get convicted of a crime and deported back to the UK obviously.
Briton who has lived in Australia for 50 years faces deportation for scrub fire - The Guardian
Australia carries out British man's deportation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Australia to deport mother-of-five to UK for crimes - BBC News
Plenty don't even travel in the first place and therefore have no passport and subsequently no clue what their citizenship is or just assume they are Australian by length of living.
Briton who has lived in Australia for 50 years faces deportation for scrub fire - The Guardian
Australia carries out British man's deportation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Australia to deport mother-of-five to UK for crimes - BBC News
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Because there's no digital record of their immigration status. They arrived as ten pounds poms as babes in arms in the '50s and '60s and never had any subsequent interaction with DIBP. They are permanent residents but it relies on digging through old microfiches or immigration cards to prove it. As they didn't provide DIBP with their passport details before they left they end up getting stuck in the UK until their status is confirmed.
Very true and as they can also vote there's no disadvantage if they don't travel. Unless they get convicted of a crime and deported back to the UK obviously.
Briton who has lived in Australia for 50 years faces deportation for scrub fire - The Guardian
Australia carries out British man's deportation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Australia to deport mother-of-five to UK for crimes - BBC News
Briton who has lived in Australia for 50 years faces deportation for scrub fire - The Guardian
Australia carries out British man's deportation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Australia to deport mother-of-five to UK for crimes - BBC News
If I were to go back through the citizenship laws of every country that make up my line back to great grandparents it would be a big task.
I know I am a British and Australian citizen but there are no less than 5 other countries in the mix.
Section 44 needs some serious work.
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Certainly get a ticking off on the way out.
Written in the days when the British Empire spanned a quarter of the globe. It wasn't intended to catch out Brits, Kiwis, Canadians, etc.. as all were British subjects. If the same principle was applied to Commonwealth citizens now then none of the five concerned would have been ruled ineligible. As it is it will require a referendum to change it which has obviously been kicked down the road for decades now. Odds on it being on the ballot paper at the next election.
Indeedo again.
If I were to go back through the citizenship laws of every country that make up my line back to great grandparents it would be a big task.
I know I am a British and Australian citizen but there are no less than 5 other countries in the mix.
Section 44 needs some serious work.
If I were to go back through the citizenship laws of every country that make up my line back to great grandparents it would be a big task.
I know I am a British and Australian citizen but there are no less than 5 other countries in the mix.
Section 44 needs some serious work.
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Certainly get a ticking off on the way out.
Written in the days when the British Empire spanned a quarter of the globe. It wasn't intended to catch out Brits, Kiwis, Canadians, etc.. as all were British subjects. If the same principle was applied to Commonwealth citizens now then none of the five concerned would have been ruled ineligible. As it is it will require a referendum to change it which has obviously been kicked down the road for decades now. Odds on it being on the ballot paper at the next election.
Written in the days when the British Empire spanned a quarter of the globe. It wasn't intended to catch out Brits, Kiwis, Canadians, etc.. as all were British subjects. If the same principle was applied to Commonwealth citizens now then none of the five concerned would have been ruled ineligible. As it is it will require a referendum to change it which has obviously been kicked down the road for decades now. Odds on it being on the ballot paper at the next election.
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Realistically dual citizenship is not as important an issue as corporate corruption and dancing to the tune of a corporate master. Only have to look at the NBN for the evidence of how destructive for the Australian citizen that can be.
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True. NBN was a disaster from the outset. What were the leaders thinking at the time when they set up the NBN Co.