Australian living costs
#76
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by Tiawamutu
...They are my thoughts anyway, and it's how I feel...
#77
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by DevMountain
...and that's why you will fit in well here!
#78
Re: Australian living costs
ouch!
interesting calculations though......
Just out of interest (ok, im being nosey) what do you spend with your weekly allowance, as you have a huge household shopping budget, and seem to have covered an amount for clothing, insurance, car costs etc.
looking at what else you have included, i worked out a weekly allowance for me and my other half based on what we spend now.
hubby - only buys papers, crisps, odd bacon butty, football team subs etc...he gets through about £15/week (wassthat?=$50??roughestimate?)
me - odd bits of shopping, bits for kids etc = £30 (??$75??)
our household shopping on a bad week is around £130.......that includes a complete restock of the cupboards and freezer!!
now before everyone shouts at me, i know its not good practice to do a uk;aus comparison/conversion.......but just thought id look at it from our perspective.
we hope to have a combined gross income of about £65k.
like others have said, you live within and up to your means
interesting calculations though......
Just out of interest (ok, im being nosey) what do you spend with your weekly allowance, as you have a huge household shopping budget, and seem to have covered an amount for clothing, insurance, car costs etc.
looking at what else you have included, i worked out a weekly allowance for me and my other half based on what we spend now.
hubby - only buys papers, crisps, odd bacon butty, football team subs etc...he gets through about £15/week (wassthat?=$50??roughestimate?)
me - odd bits of shopping, bits for kids etc = £30 (??$75??)
our household shopping on a bad week is around £130.......that includes a complete restock of the cupboards and freezer!!
now before everyone shouts at me, i know its not good practice to do a uk;aus comparison/conversion.......but just thought id look at it from our perspective.
we hope to have a combined gross income of about £65k.
like others have said, you live within and up to your means
#79
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by tiredwithtwins
ouch!
interesting calculations though......
Just out of interest (ok, im being nosey) what do you spend with your weekly allowance, as you have a huge household shopping budget, and seem to have covered an amount for clothing, insurance, car costs etc.
looking at what else you have included, i worked out a weekly allowance for me and my other half based on what we spend now.
hubby - only buys papers, crisps, odd bacon butty, football team subs etc...he gets through about £15/week (wassthat?=$50??roughestimate?)
me - odd bits of shopping, bits for kids etc = £30 (??$75??)
our household shopping on a bad week is around £130.......that includes a complete restock of the cupboards and freezer!!
now before everyone shouts at me, i know its not good practice to do a uk;aus comparison/conversion.......but just thought id look at it from our perspective.
we hope to have a combined gross income of about £65k.
like others have said, you live within and up to your means
interesting calculations though......
Just out of interest (ok, im being nosey) what do you spend with your weekly allowance, as you have a huge household shopping budget, and seem to have covered an amount for clothing, insurance, car costs etc.
looking at what else you have included, i worked out a weekly allowance for me and my other half based on what we spend now.
hubby - only buys papers, crisps, odd bacon butty, football team subs etc...he gets through about £15/week (wassthat?=$50??roughestimate?)
me - odd bits of shopping, bits for kids etc = £30 (??$75??)
our household shopping on a bad week is around £130.......that includes a complete restock of the cupboards and freezer!!
now before everyone shouts at me, i know its not good practice to do a uk;aus comparison/conversion.......but just thought id look at it from our perspective.
we hope to have a combined gross income of about £65k.
like others have said, you live within and up to your means
#80
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 12,063
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by eintracht
Sorry Possums, it was not my spreadsheet that started this thread. I was just putting my view in to see if anybody could pick holes on my line of thinking.
Has anybody tried property development ?
Has anybody tried property development ?
Why dont you start a new thread re property development, I'd be interested in the response
Last edited by possoms; Sep 30th 2005 at 10:53 am.
#81
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Joined: May 2004
Location: Milton Keynes, England
Posts: 327
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by possoms
DOH thought you were the OP
Why dont you start a new thread re property development, I'd be interested in the response
Why dont you start a new thread re property development, I'd be interested in the response
#82
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Thread Starter
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 65
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by tiredwithtwins
ouch!
interesting calculations though......
Just out of interest (ok, im being nosey) what do you spend with your weekly allowance, as you have a huge household shopping budget, and seem to have covered an amount for clothing, insurance, car costs etc.
looking at what else you have included, i worked out a weekly allowance for me and my other half based on what we spend now.
hubby - only buys papers, crisps, odd bacon butty, football team subs etc...he gets through about £15/week (wassthat?=$50??roughestimate?)
me - odd bits of shopping, bits for kids etc = £30 (??$75??)
our household shopping on a bad week is around £130.......that includes a complete restock of the cupboards and freezer!!
now before everyone shouts at me, i know its not good practice to do a uk;aus comparison/conversion.......but just thought id look at it from our perspective.
we hope to have a combined gross income of about £65k.
like others have said, you live within and up to your means
interesting calculations though......
Just out of interest (ok, im being nosey) what do you spend with your weekly allowance, as you have a huge household shopping budget, and seem to have covered an amount for clothing, insurance, car costs etc.
looking at what else you have included, i worked out a weekly allowance for me and my other half based on what we spend now.
hubby - only buys papers, crisps, odd bacon butty, football team subs etc...he gets through about £15/week (wassthat?=$50??roughestimate?)
me - odd bits of shopping, bits for kids etc = £30 (??$75??)
our household shopping on a bad week is around £130.......that includes a complete restock of the cupboards and freezer!!
now before everyone shouts at me, i know its not good practice to do a uk;aus comparison/conversion.......but just thought id look at it from our perspective.
we hope to have a combined gross income of about £65k.
like others have said, you live within and up to your means
Our plans include having a reasonable quality of life, but we are realistic enough to realise things many not go exactly as planned. Anyway until I get a job, it will be bread and water.
Dave
#83
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 315
Re: Australian living costs
Just to throw another angle on this and to counter something that Grayling alluded to earlier.......I think that it it is entirely healthy to move around the world and know that financially you will be worse off.
Personally, immediately prior to moving to Australia, I was heading for senior jobs in education - looking at salaries up to around £50K. We moved to Aus and I'm now on about £27K equiv. This was a conscious decision and we don't regret it for a minute. Now things aren't easy financially but that doesn't mean that it was the wrong decision. To our family, life here is worth the salary drop (in spite of many things about Australia which are dire). The other thing to remember also is that you are unlikely to ever be as poor as you are in the first couple of years of your move here. It really should get better.
You are either the type of person who sees salary climbing as your key goal or you are not. As with many things on this forum it's a personal approach to life and there's little point in trying to convince people. For us, seeing the world is a much better option.
I do want to reiterate what I tend to say a lot on this forum though....you should always be prepared to move on or back if things are going disastrously. So my advice would be, if yours is the type of house which you could rent out in the UK do so and rent here until you are really happy with your move. Still can't understood those that sell up when they don't need to. We will move back (or onwards) if I am still unhappy with the schools here in 3 years time - and we will find the money even if we use credit cards for the flights!!
And one other thing........
the weather is still crap.
Personally, immediately prior to moving to Australia, I was heading for senior jobs in education - looking at salaries up to around £50K. We moved to Aus and I'm now on about £27K equiv. This was a conscious decision and we don't regret it for a minute. Now things aren't easy financially but that doesn't mean that it was the wrong decision. To our family, life here is worth the salary drop (in spite of many things about Australia which are dire). The other thing to remember also is that you are unlikely to ever be as poor as you are in the first couple of years of your move here. It really should get better.
You are either the type of person who sees salary climbing as your key goal or you are not. As with many things on this forum it's a personal approach to life and there's little point in trying to convince people. For us, seeing the world is a much better option.
I do want to reiterate what I tend to say a lot on this forum though....you should always be prepared to move on or back if things are going disastrously. So my advice would be, if yours is the type of house which you could rent out in the UK do so and rent here until you are really happy with your move. Still can't understood those that sell up when they don't need to. We will move back (or onwards) if I am still unhappy with the schools here in 3 years time - and we will find the money even if we use credit cards for the flights!!
And one other thing........
the weather is still crap.
#84
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Upmarket
Posts: 17,503
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by NKSK
Just to throw another angle on this and to counter something that Grayling alluded to earlier.......I think that it it is entirely healthy to move around the world and know that financially you will be worse off.
What I said was that most people who move do not believe THEY THEMSELVES will be any worse off. Many believe they will be better off despite any contrary evidence.
Personally I would not move if I thought I would be worse off.
G
#85
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by Grayling
Personally I would not move if I thought I would be worse off.
#86
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Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Upmarket
Posts: 17,503
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by cam_uk
Yes but worse off can not be counted in dollars alone ...
G
#87
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by Grayling
Maybe....but they certainly help and you can't eat sunshine or sand.
G
G
#88
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by DJMA
presents, flowers for Julie (occasionally), haircuts (I still have hair),
thats probably where my other half is going wrong
the last time he bought me flowers, he did it cos he's bought the midwives some who delivered our twins so thought hed better buy me some too
and he has no hair
#89
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by Grayling
Maybe....but they certainly help and you can't eat sunshine or sand.
G
G
#90
Re: Australian living costs
Originally Posted by Grayling
I didn't say you should not do it and didn't say it is the wrong thing to do.
What I said was that most people who move do not believe THEY THEMSELVES will be any worse off. Many believe they will be better off despite any contrary evidence.
Personally I would not move if I thought I would be worse off.
G
What I said was that most people who move do not believe THEY THEMSELVES will be any worse off. Many believe they will be better off despite any contrary evidence.
Personally I would not move if I thought I would be worse off.
G
I agree, however how are people going to know the end result should they stay in Uk?