Australia v Canada ????????
Jul 15th 2008, 1:02 pm
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Australia v Canada ????????
Hi All
My partner and I are thinking about the idea of relocation to one of the countries mentioned,we are both in our early 30s with no ties and feel this may be a great opportunity for the both of us as we are both fed up with the Uk and both countries appeal to us as they have more of the Outdoors factor that is some what limited here in the Uk.
We would be renting our house out initialy so we will be renting / seeking work for the first few months.
I know it is a loaded question and down to personal choice but the question is Australia or Canada??? fors and againsts pls
My partner and I are thinking about the idea of relocation to one of the countries mentioned,we are both in our early 30s with no ties and feel this may be a great opportunity for the both of us as we are both fed up with the Uk and both countries appeal to us as they have more of the Outdoors factor that is some what limited here in the Uk.
We would be renting our house out initialy so we will be renting / seeking work for the first few months.
I know it is a loaded question and down to personal choice but the question is Australia or Canada??? fors and againsts pls
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Jul 15th 2008, 1:22 pm
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
I'm applying to leave Canada for Australia, so take that with a grain of salt.
If you choose Canada, be very very aware that winters in Canada are COLD, so you have to be prepared for that more than anything else. People from elsewhere can't fathom what it's like until they actually experience it.
Although I'm from Toronto, I would (and especially if you're into outdoors stuff), stay away from here and live in the west. Economy in Alberta is far stronger than Ontario, people there are way friendlier, and there's a lot more outdoors stuff within a shorter drive. The only bad part about Alberta is that it's winters are colder than Toronto (although, as they say in those parts, "it's a dry cold", so it doesn't necessarily feel any worse even when the actual temperature in Calgary is lower than Toronto.)
If you choose Canada, be very very aware that winters in Canada are COLD, so you have to be prepared for that more than anything else. People from elsewhere can't fathom what it's like until they actually experience it.
Although I'm from Toronto, I would (and especially if you're into outdoors stuff), stay away from here and live in the west. Economy in Alberta is far stronger than Ontario, people there are way friendlier, and there's a lot more outdoors stuff within a shorter drive. The only bad part about Alberta is that it's winters are colder than Toronto (although, as they say in those parts, "it's a dry cold", so it doesn't necessarily feel any worse even when the actual temperature in Calgary is lower than Toronto.)
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Jul 15th 2008, 2:40 pm
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
Hi All
My partner and I are thinking about the idea of relocation to one of the countries mentioned,we are both in our early 30s with no ties and feel this may be a great opportunity for the both of us as we are both fed up with the Uk and both countries appeal to us as they have more of the Outdoors factor that is some what limited here in the Uk.
We would be renting our house out initialy so we will be renting / seeking work for the first few months.
I know it is a loaded question and down to personal choice but the question is Australia or Canada??? fors and againsts pls
My partner and I are thinking about the idea of relocation to one of the countries mentioned,we are both in our early 30s with no ties and feel this may be a great opportunity for the both of us as we are both fed up with the Uk and both countries appeal to us as they have more of the Outdoors factor that is some what limited here in the Uk.
We would be renting our house out initialy so we will be renting / seeking work for the first few months.
I know it is a loaded question and down to personal choice but the question is Australia or Canada??? fors and againsts pls
If you love the outdoors I say go to the West coast Alberta, BC etc. If you are a city person Toronto is lovely. There are also some nice suburbs outside of Toronto as well i.e. Mississauga, Ajax, Oshawa, Richmondhill etc. Hope this helps.
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Jul 16th 2008, 12:32 am
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
Hi All
My partner and I are thinking about the idea of relocation to one of the countries mentioned,we are both in our early 30s with no ties and feel this may be a great opportunity for the both of us as we are both fed up with the Uk and both countries appeal to us as they have more of the Outdoors factor that is some what limited here in the Uk.
We would be renting our house out initialy so we will be renting / seeking work for the first few months.
I know it is a loaded question and down to personal choice but the question is Australia or Canada??? fors and againsts pls
My partner and I are thinking about the idea of relocation to one of the countries mentioned,we are both in our early 30s with no ties and feel this may be a great opportunity for the both of us as we are both fed up with the Uk and both countries appeal to us as they have more of the Outdoors factor that is some what limited here in the Uk.
We would be renting our house out initialy so we will be renting / seeking work for the first few months.
I know it is a loaded question and down to personal choice but the question is Australia or Canada??? fors and againsts pls
whilst i love the snow..and the winters here in canada...i prefer to be in australia. why..because
my family is there. firstly. my closest freinds are there.
however..i LOVE and MISS our beaches..and the whole lifestyle that brings with it. and yes even the sunburnt noses.a dn the weather...more summertime than canada..where it can be all too short.
idealy it would probably be great to..have aussie winter time in canada and canadian winter time in australia. opposites of course.
i would suggest just looking through the threads here on the aussie and the canadian forums. take a look at the ones with titles of place names etc. it will give you more of an idea.
one can look tho..read and talk with others..however..it realy comes down to where you feel the strongest calling. and also...
what lifestyle you want.
Australia..sun sand surf swimming...etc...and we do have a ski season in australia aswell.
Canada..snow..ski...swimming...etc regardless of what people say..summers in canada can be glorious too.....and the temps can get quite high.
it could depend on your employment. i think both have good opportunities. but to be honest..i find it a bit hard accepting that in canada a lot only get 2 weeks holidays for their first 3-5? years of employment. BUT then again..the medical benefits can be great!! you dont' get that in australia. IF you want private medical..you have to pay for it yourself and it is expensive. i paid into it for a few years. never used it. so stopped. now i just rely on medicare. and pay at the dentist etc as i need it. worked out to be much cheaper for me.
most of what i have said you already probably know..so not sure i have been much help....let us know what you decide on..is a big decision and not that can be made by what other people think alone..Good Luck...
Jul 16th 2008, 2:47 am
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
Doesn't the immigration process for Canada take a VERY long time? If you're keen to make a move soon that might decide it for you.
Jul 16th 2008, 3:57 am
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
Hi everyone
I am thinking of moving to Australia.
Can anybody tell me how long the visa process takes. Can I get my qualifications attested in the embassy in Dubai or do they have to be attested in the UK?
I am thinking of moving to Australia.
Can anybody tell me how long the visa process takes. Can I get my qualifications attested in the embassy in Dubai or do they have to be attested in the UK?
Jul 16th 2008, 4:26 am
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
That's assuming that you've never been in a scenario where you have to rely on the now legendary waiting times for surgery or just sitting for countless hours in an emergency room, or even not being able to actually find a primary care doctor and needing to rely on walk-in clinics. At least in Australia, you have the choice of getting a private medical alternative and the govt. has incentives to actively encourage it. In Canada it's technically not even legal and you're stuck with the government monopoly (I say "technically" because there's always a way around anything and enforcement has become more loose over the years).
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Jul 16th 2008, 4:46 am
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2 weeks... that's not really standard, I've never had a job in Canada (or none of my friends/relatives that I'm aware of) where they didn't offer 3 as the default (plus the usual stat holidays). It's true that in most provinces the legal minimum is 2, but any reputable company I know offers 3 as that is currently the practical norm and they know people can go work somewhere else that does offer 3.
That's assuming that you've never been in a scenario where you have to rely on the now legendary waiting times for surgery or just sitting for countless hours in an emergency room, or even not being able to actually find a primary care doctor and needing to rely on walk-in clinics. At least in Australia, you have the choice of getting a private medical alternative and the govt. has incentives to actively encourage it. In Canada it's technically not even legal and you're stuck with the government monopoly (I say "technically" because there's always a way around anything and enforcement has become more loose over the years).
That's assuming that you've never been in a scenario where you have to rely on the now legendary waiting times for surgery or just sitting for countless hours in an emergency room, or even not being able to actually find a primary care doctor and needing to rely on walk-in clinics. At least in Australia, you have the choice of getting a private medical alternative and the govt. has incentives to actively encourage it. In Canada it's technically not even legal and you're stuck with the government monopoly (I say "technically" because there's always a way around anything and enforcement has become more loose over the years).
There are ER line ups in Australia too, private hospitals do not do all the surgeries so in many cases you are stuck in line as well (and this is usually big "cases" surgeries). There are private clinics/ORs in Canada in some provinces where you can get faster access. I work in Health care here in Canada and will be working in Oz.
Jul 16th 2008, 10:57 am
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This part made me laugh out loud. Toronto is lovely? Compared to WHAT? Toronto is dirty, polluted and grey. Mississauga, Ajax and Oshawa nice suburbs? I think you need to give your head a little shake. You have obviously been out of Canada too long.
Jul 16th 2008, 1:22 pm
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lol Dorothy. Toronto is not that bad compared to other cities. In fact when I went back to Toronto this summer I didn't like it at all, so I hear what you are saying. I will give my head another shake and maybe then I will say Toronto is AWFUL...as for the suburb, well I am a city girl if that says anything.
Jul 16th 2008, 1:43 pm
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
2 weeks... that's not really standard, I've never had a job in Canada (or none of my friends/relatives that I'm aware of) where they didn't offer 3 as the default (plus the usual stat holidays). It's true that in most provinces the legal minimum is 2, but any reputable company I know offers 3 as that is currently the practical norm and they know people can go work somewhere else that does offer 3.
That's assuming that you've never been in a scenario where you have to rely on the now legendary waiting times for surgery or just sitting for countless hours in an emergency room, or even not being able to actually find a primary care doctor and needing to rely on walk-in clinics. At least in Australia, you have the choice of getting a private medical alternative and the govt. has incentives to actively encourage it. In Canada it's technically not even legal and you're stuck with the government monopoly (I say "technically" because there's always a way around anything and enforcement has become more loose over the years).
That's assuming that you've never been in a scenario where you have to rely on the now legendary waiting times for surgery or just sitting for countless hours in an emergency room, or even not being able to actually find a primary care doctor and needing to rely on walk-in clinics. At least in Australia, you have the choice of getting a private medical alternative and the govt. has incentives to actively encourage it. In Canada it's technically not even legal and you're stuck with the government monopoly (I say "technically" because there's always a way around anything and enforcement has become more loose over the years).
however...my husband with his company had 2 weeks holiday for the first 5 years! and it is a huge international company. now he gets 3 years up till 10 years. and i know of others the same.
i was lucky i got 6 weeks annual leave with my job. imagine the look on my husbands face when i told him that....
Jul 16th 2008, 2:34 pm
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Re: Australia v Canada ????????
they have to be assessed in Australia (unsurprisingly given that's the country you want to move to)
