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Old Dec 31st 2014, 9:25 am   #91
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Which was where Grayling? Australians do not live behind big walls like in South Africa and to pretend they do is to peddle mistruths, based on bias.
Have you been drinking.....what has South Africa got to do with anything?

...and who has said anything about big walls?

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Be specific about freedoms you have lost. thanks. Oh and the data retention legislation is based on European laws.
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Old Dec 31st 2014, 9:35 am   #93
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Be specific about freedoms you have lost. thanks. Oh and the data retention legislation is based on European laws.
If you keep posting random comments, it makes things difficult to follow. Please use the quote function, or at the very least state who you are responding to.

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The woman said people live behind fortifications, ie big walls. If she meant psychological barriers that is something else entirely. But people DO NOT live behind fortifications in Australia.
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I am clicking the reply button so not sure what is going wrong.
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If you keep posting random comments, it makes things difficult to follow. Please use the quote function, or at the very least state who you are responding to.

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Ok, realised I have to click quote message in reply...
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The woman said people live behind fortifications, ie big walls. If she meant psychological barriers that is something else entirely. But people DO NOT live behind fortifications in Australia.
This is for Grayling.
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Ok, realised I have to click quote message in reply...
There is also the quote button at the right hand side of a post. Clicking this should open a reply window
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These stats do not apply to the vest majority of people who live in Australia. There are still big distances to travel in the UK, have been on the m4 lately? Gridlocked traffic.
Have you ever actually driven anywhere in Oz? I just did Wiluna to Kal. Desert for 6 hours.

Want to go from East to west - expect the most boring trip of life.
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Have you ever actually driven anywhere in Oz? I just did Wiluna to Kal. Desert for 6 hours.

Want to go from East to west - expect the most boring trip of life.
Can imagine it being very boring. I drove from Calais to Frankfurt last year in less than 6 hours. Imagine 4 different countries in such a short time (France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany). Ok, motorway can get boring too, but a lot of the journey was off the motorway.
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Have you ever actually driven anywhere in Oz? I just did Wiluna to Kal. Desert for 6 hours.

Want to go from East to west - expect the most boring trip of life.
Exactly right verystormy.
Sydney N.S.W. to Perth W.A. is 42 hours (3,938.2 km) via National Highway A1
Australia is larger than USA(not inc Hawaii / Alaska)
Then England is around the same size as our 2nd smallest state Victoria.
I have ridden many many times syd - perth in just under 3 days.
A motorcycle ride for my daughter and I from Spain to Italy in an early start day should be no effort at all.


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This is for Grayling.
I haven't got a clue what you are on about....I never said any of that
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I haven't got a clue what you are on about....I never said any of that
I think he means the post from the troubadour:

The woman continued, Perth's a beautiful city as well, but people live behind fortifications to a large extent. The other agreed. As do I.
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@ Blackey_Oz, If you'd live in Spain, you could even drive to China on your motorcycle
If you still have the knack he could ride from Australia to China.
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Exactly right verystormy.
Sydney N.S.W. to Perth W.A. is 42 hours (3,938.2 km) via National Highway A1
Australia is larger than USA(not inc Hawaii / Alaska)
Then England is around the same size as our 2nd smallest state Victoria.
I have ridden many many times syd - perth in just under 3 days.
A motorcycle ride for my daughter and I from Spain to Italy in an early start day should be no effort at all.

http://www.britzinoz.com/wp-content/...aus-europe.jpg
Good map. Just shows how big Europe actually is.

Here's some tips.

I drove from Aberdeen to London in a weekend. All motorway because I had to do it in a weekend. Very boring except for leaving the motorway and seeing the Lakes District. You see my point. You still need time. You want to not be on the motorway to get good value.

Same on the continent. If you are motorway driving its quick but boring as hell. All the good stuff is off the motorway which again is time and lots of it but great if you have it.

If you are living and working you can throw time out the window.
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