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Old Dec 31st 2014, 7:33 am   #76
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These stats do not apply to the vest majority of people who live in Australia. There are still big distances to travel in the UK, have been on the m4 lately? Gridlocked traffic.
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They don't actually. People talk a lot of nonsense on this site. I guess the suburbs are not European villages where people sit outside watching the world go by and chat to their neighbours, which doesn't happen in the UK either.
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Old Dec 31st 2014, 7:39 am   #78
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What? Anti-freedom legislation? please, You sound like a bikie...if so I wish you all the best in Europe, the land of the free!
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They don't actually. People talk a lot of nonsense on this site. I guess the suburbs are not European villages where people sit outside watching the world go by and chat to their neighbours, which doesn't happen in the UK either.
Did where I lived

Seems like you talk a lot of nonsense as well
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11 year olds adapt quickly. The exposure to other languages will be worth its weight in gold. Spain is very diverse. Looked in 2001 to buy a place there but went away at the time unimpressed. A lot has happened since of course and prices have been driven way down.

Spain is the most popular country with foreigners and not difficult I'd imagine to find a place desirable to your specifications. Close to the Portugal border I'd probably go for but there are many to pick.

Prefer Portugal myself, but Malta also a favourite. Big Aussie connection there and worth checking out. Only a short flight or ferry ride to Italy .
Overall Europe wins because of so many different cultures and languages. Spain is a great place, but don't forget that unemployment is high and salaries very low, just like Portugal too. Malta is a bit too small in my opinion and I'd find it too boring after a while, but that's just me. If you're retired and have some cash, it's obviously a lot easier to do what you like. I'm a long way from retirement, but we bought a plot of land in Spain last year and it's definitely affordable. Don't know if I'd want to move over to Spain full time (Ireland isn't that far from Spain), but who knows in the future. @ Blackey_Oz, what about marriage, seems to be the only way todayNot everything's perfect in Europe (see Russia Ukraine conflict) but where is it perfect. If you'd live in Spain, you could even drive to China on your motorcycle

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Which was where Grayling? Australians do not live behind big walls like in South Africa and to pretend they do is to peddle mistruths, based on bias.
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What? Anti-freedom legislation? please, You sound like a bikie...if so I wish you all the best in Europe, the land of the free!
Only an ignorant fool would not notice the erosion of australia's freedoms
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Overall Europe wins because of so many different cultures and languages. Spain is a great place, but don't forget that unemployment is high and salaries very low, just like Portugal too. Malta is a bit too small in my opinion and I'd find it too boring after a while, but that's just me. If you're retired and have some cash, it's obviously a lot easier to do what you like. I'm a long way from retirement, but we bought a plot of land in Spain last year and it's definitely affordable. Don't know if I'd want to move over to Spain full time (Ireland isn't that far from Spain), but who knows in the future. @ Blackey_Oz, what about marriage, seems to be the only way todayNot everything's perfect in Europe (see Russia Ukraine conflict) but where is it perfect. If you'd live in Spain, you could even drive to China on your motorcycle
It's helpful intelligent input like this I truly appreciate, thanks Moses2013
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Which was where Grayling? Australians do not live behind big walls like in South Africa and to pretend they do is to peddle mistruths, based on bias.
Darn close to it though in aspects. A self imposed isolation not necessary through fear of crime. Bias there is plenty of that. Just as there are plenty of awake Aussies as well to how things are panning out and opportunities abroad.
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Only an ignorant fool would not notice the erosion of australia's freedoms
I have no idea what some fear with the concept of freedom.
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It's helpful intelligent input like this I truly appreciate, thanks Moses2013
You're welcome. We all have dreams and that's a good thing, but no matter where you go, there will be pros and cons. I think the most frustrating thing is that we live in a so called free world, but have all these visa requirements. I hope you can find a way to come and experience Europe.
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+1.
Exactly, seven yrs in the USA till '96 but never to Europe,
with 1/2 Italian (Mum's side) heritage my passion to go is at a fever-pitch, current oz anti-freedom legislations have stoked my fire to escape this penal colony,
some may say unfair with an 11yr old kid but be an education, for both of us.
With an Italian parent, you may have a claim for Italian citizenship by descent, which can be passed on the maternal side to those born after 1948. This would then allow you to pass it to your son from what I've read (only a quick read but probably worth investigating).
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With an Italian parent, you may have a claim for Italian citizenship by descent, which can be passed on the maternal side to those born after 1948. This would then allow you to pass it to your son from what I've read (only a quick read but probably worth investigating).
Thanks Buddy but have been down that road(I should have clarified)
Mum born in oz to Italian parents,(passed away 1983) therefore she was an oz citizen, unfortunately the chain breaks there.
Keep 'em coming though by all means.

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Thanks Buddy but have been down that road(I should have clarified)
Mum born in oz to Italian parents,(passed away 1983) therefore she was an oz citizen, there unfortunately the chain breaks.
Keep 'em coming though by all means.
But she would also have been Italian by descent and able to pass onto you, unless her parents became Australian citizens before she was born.
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CATEGORY #9: Your maternal grandfather was born in your native country, your maternal great grandfather was an Italian citizen at the time of his birth, you were born after January 1st, 1948, and neither you nor your mother nor your grandfather ever renounced your right to Italian citizenship. If citizenship is acquired by birth in your country and you meet all these conditions, you qualify for Italian citizenship jure sanguinis. You must obtain certified copies of the following documents:
1.Your maternal great grandfather's birth certificate from Italy, also known as an estratto dell'atto di nascita
2.Your maternal great grandfather's certificate of Italian citizenship from Italy, also known as a certificato di cittadinanza italiana (Note: Most Italian embassies and consulates do NOT require this. The only ones we are aware of that do are the Italian consulates in Miami and Chicago. For information on requesting a Certificate of Italian Citizenship through ICGS, contact us at [email protected].)
3.Your maternal great grandmother's birth certificate
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