Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
#16
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by Centurion
But we do have central barriers on multilane highways so this isnt an issue.
Much like major UK A roads, where the highway reduces to single lane in each direction there is not a barrier but on multiple lanes there is usually a barrier of some description, if not metal/concrete then a wide strip and ditch with vegetation in, similar to the US.
Interestingly on a global scale Australia and the UK are about the same for the number of fatal incidents comparative to population and distances driven. The USA is slightly higher and New Zealand is about double!! (Facts courtesy of Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_safety)
Now if you just look at motorways then the UK supercedes Australia in the number of fatalities, again comparative to population etc. But then the sheer scale of the UK motorway network would probably be a reason for that statistic anyway.
Amused me. Back to watching the storm from the balcony with some wine
Much like major UK A roads, where the highway reduces to single lane in each direction there is not a barrier but on multiple lanes there is usually a barrier of some description, if not metal/concrete then a wide strip and ditch with vegetation in, similar to the US.
Interestingly on a global scale Australia and the UK are about the same for the number of fatal incidents comparative to population and distances driven. The USA is slightly higher and New Zealand is about double!! (Facts courtesy of Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_safety)
Now if you just look at motorways then the UK supercedes Australia in the number of fatalities, again comparative to population etc. But then the sheer scale of the UK motorway network would probably be a reason for that statistic anyway.
Amused me. Back to watching the storm from the balcony with some wine
But it doesn't seem like this is the case.
We also noticed that there was a LOT less roadkill on the roads (animals) and had a number of theories for this:
1. British obsession with small furry creatures (made them more careful/less likely to aim for them as a Qld'er might 'aim' for a cane toad...)
2. Relates to 1: possibly because there aren't that many animals left in the UK having been hunted to extinction so less animals = less roadkill?
3. Better drivers in the UK
But recently realised we were mistaken when, driving with (Scottish) pal over yet another putrid rotting wallaby carcass, I was berated by him for how slack our local police were...
Trying to put 2 and 2 together I asked him what he meant. Turns out where he is from the local law enforcement are responsible for clearing dead animals off the roads asap...I have never heard of this happening here (and it sure as hell doesn't happen in my local area).
So this is why it SEEMED like the UK were better drivers...
Just thought it was funny how we make our assumptions!
#17
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Most of the crap drivers I see in oz seem to be immigrants – usually English folk in Volvos who don't know what an indicator is.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by MD09
Most of the crap drivers I see in oz seem to be immigrants – usually English folk in Volvos who don't know what an indicator is.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
#19
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by MD09
Most of the crap drivers I see in oz seem to be immigrants – usually English folk in Volvos who don't know what an indicator is.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
#20
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by MD09
Most of the crap drivers I see in oz seem to be immigrants – usually English folk in Volvos who don't know what an indicator is.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
#21
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by Grayling
I hope you have got your crash helmet on
Starting a thread with a title like that is very risky on here.
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Starting a thread with a title like that is very risky on here.
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Was thinking the same thing. Pity really, all this tippy toeing around what its really like to live here for fear of upsetting those with a delicate constitution.
#22
Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
I've seen lots of crap Australian drivers - weaving in and out of the traffic, no anticipation, not courtesy.
Pouring down with rain on and having a merc or BMW steam up behind you at warp factor 9 with headlights flashing to move over ?
The list goes on.
Seriously though - I think we can probably all agree there are some crap drivers out there no matter where we live and the vast majority of us will have our own special moment of a brain fart behind the wheel at some point in our driving careers. Some may even admit it too despite it always being the other bloke lol.
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by Centurion
I rode a motorbike in the UK to work. I've seen an equally shite amount of UK drivers - shame they didnt bother to see me. Must have been the bright yellow flourescent jacket and headlights on. Should have worn something more obvious I guess.
Pouring down with rain on and having a merc or BMW steam up behind you at warp factor 9 with headlights flashing to move over ?
The list goes on.
Seriously though - I think we can probably all agree there are some crap drivers out there no matter where we live and the vast majority of us will have our own special moment of a brain fart behind the wheel at some point in our driving careers. Some may even admit it too despite it always being the other bloke lol.
Pouring down with rain on and having a merc or BMW steam up behind you at warp factor 9 with headlights flashing to move over ?
The list goes on.
Seriously though - I think we can probably all agree there are some crap drivers out there no matter where we live and the vast majority of us will have our own special moment of a brain fart behind the wheel at some point in our driving careers. Some may even admit it too despite it always being the other bloke lol.
My response was just facetious. How the hell you can tell the nationality of a driver in a car is beyond me.
My second hand car has a German sticker on the back. Haven't been to Germany for 12 years.
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by Centurion
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and the vast majority of us will have our own special moment of a brain fart behind the wheel at some point in our driving careers. Some may even admit it too despite it always being the other bloke lol.
and the vast majority of us will have our own special moment of a brain fart behind the wheel at some point in our driving careers. Some may even admit it too despite it always being the other bloke lol.
I'm still shocked about it.
#25
Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Plenty of folks I work with think nothing of drinking all afternoon and driving home. Often the company turns a blind eye whilst also paying for the beer. Could this possibly be a factor?
#26
Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Without tarring all with the same brush, they're usually Aussies too.
#27
Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
There is certainly more publicity in Australia of its road toll - particularly over the holiday periods when the TV stations have a running toll and regular updates. It makes for sobering viewing over the festive period, that's for certain.
It also makes me more aware of how dangerous driving can be if you have had a drink, or are tired - but I don't think everyone is like me
The main differences I have found here with other people's driving is:
1. Much more undertaking (I think that's the right term, when they pass you in the inside lane)
2. More running of red lights
3. Less use of indicators and more swerving in and out of lanes
I have found:
1. Less road rage
2. Less horn honking
3. About the same when it comes to same speeding
4. Less roadside testing (only come across this twice in two years)
I have heard people blame Asians / Arabs / migrants / rural folk / bogans / hoons for accidents on the road, but I think that you can't blame bad driving on a person's race, religion, class or migration status! I'm sure those whose families came over on the First Fleet have driven badly on occasions too
It also makes me more aware of how dangerous driving can be if you have had a drink, or are tired - but I don't think everyone is like me
The main differences I have found here with other people's driving is:
1. Much more undertaking (I think that's the right term, when they pass you in the inside lane)
2. More running of red lights
3. Less use of indicators and more swerving in and out of lanes
I have found:
1. Less road rage
2. Less horn honking
3. About the same when it comes to same speeding
4. Less roadside testing (only come across this twice in two years)
I have heard people blame Asians / Arabs / migrants / rural folk / bogans / hoons for accidents on the road, but I think that you can't blame bad driving on a person's race, religion, class or migration status! I'm sure those whose families came over on the First Fleet have driven badly on occasions too
#28
Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by MD09
Most of the crap drivers I see in oz seem to be immigrants – usually English folk in Volvos who don't know what an indicator is.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
Or the Scottish in hatchbacks with the Scottish flag stuck all over the back of it. Get over it please – you’re in Australia now, lose the flag we don’t care if you’re Scottish, Chinese or African – just concentrate on your driving.
Don't even get me started on the asian or Italians drivers.
How many generations do they have to be here before they aren't immigrants anymore?
On the driving front, I think there was another thread on here recently where they gave a someone over here a licence after 10 HOURS TRAINING.
I think I see part of the problem...........
P.S. Are you first generation? Because you sound like it.
#29
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by mackinnon
How many generations do they have to be here before they aren't immigrants anymore?
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Re: Austrailan Roads' Death Toll
Originally Posted by Hutch
One. But in your case we'll make an exception.