Originally Posted by Bix

Population growth; the biggest threat to the planet.

Watch it happening here

Hover over a country to see its stats.

Originally Posted by paulry

Yeah, all the talk about climate change and nothing about population growth. Even the so called Greens are silent about it

Originally Posted by Bix

Will also be interesting to see whether the reduced baby bonus slows down the domestic rate.

Actually I wonder if the new government will scrap it.

Originally Posted by OzTennis

I wonder what % are taxi drivers with degrees?

Australia conducts a census every 5 years; UK every 10 years.

It is believed that the real population of the UK is far in excess of the official figure. eg Tesco claim from their copious records kept via Clubcard that the real figure is closer to 80 million.

Melbourne's population is rising by just under 80,000 p.a. on latest figures.

Interesting stats here:

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/02key.htm

Migration program is making a smaller contribution to Australia's population latterly than in the past eg graph at bottom shows much higher levels in % terms in 70's than now.

UK now 3rd leading source, down 30% for latest year.

And so and so forth.

Originally Posted by Bix

Population growth; the biggest threat to the planet.

Watch it happening here

Hover over a country to see its stats.

Originally Posted by Wol

That's the fundamental reason no climate change initiative is ever going to work. You cannot run up to the top of the "down" escalator - you have to press the "stop" button first.

Originally Posted by roaringmouse

That's not what this Greens policy

Originally Posted by paulry

It's buried deep in the website. It should be at the top of the home page and be unambiguously stated. Without it as their number one priority, the greens show themselves to be a bit of a fraud, imo

The UK Green Party's "take" on it is more coherently stated and can be reached in 3 clicks: http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/pp. Overall, the UK lot look like a better bunch with better policies. Interesting how they enjoy far less exposure over there than the greens do here.

Originally Posted by roaringmouse

I'm struggling to get to that page within 3 clicks from www.greenparty.org.uk - the obvious link to use is Policy, but on that page I wouldn't know where to go. What were your 3 clicks?

Originally Posted by roaringmouse

Anyway, I don't think it's such a big issue as some make out.

Originally Posted by paulry

Policy -> Policy Website -> Population

Originally Posted by paulry

You mean population?

Originally Posted by roaringmouse

That's buried deep in the Policy page - I didn't even notice it with it so far down on a text heavy page. Neither clear nor easy to get to - also a little odd to have a separate website for policy, you would expect the information on that to be on the one website under the policy link.

Originally Posted by roaringmouse

Global population, yes.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

UK is fourth if New Zealand is taken into account. Although not counted on the official stats, but as a different entry they still provided around 26,000 people last financial year. UK only 21,711...Both countries had a falling rate.

Migration levels were similar to recent years in the 70's but the population overall much far smaller.

Originally Posted by paulry

Agreed, it's also not that immediate and the two policy links suggest poor website design. But better than the site for Australian Greens because when you finally get to the information it has the flaws I mentioned. In addition, the Aussie Greens environmental facade is just a front for extreme left wing politics. What a shame.


I disagree. Present day global population growth represents the greatest threat to humanity.

Originally Posted by OzTennis

Well, not important but - immi.gov.au source I quoted clearly says NZ 1st, China 2nd, UK 3rd and India 4th slightly behind (10,944 vs 10,566) - settler arrivals by country of birth for y/e 6/11, the latest for which they have stats.

Originally Posted by the troubadour

I don't see too many countries benefiting by having large populations. It impacts on services although does create demand. But demand in every sense. Australia needs to think beyond immigration as a source for growth.

Interesting the recent survey on Happiness in the world all the smaller populated countries came out on top.
Denmark led the way followed by Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands, Sweden, Canada, Finland and Australia came in at tenth.
Definitely suggests something about small populated countries.

Originally Posted by Beaverstate

On the happiness survey you can't even remotely compare Denmark with Australia or Canada. Denmark has 129.5 people per sq. KM. Australia 2.9 per and Canada 3.75 per. The only reason Denmark is a smaller populated country is because it is tiny, not a lesser populated area.