** Perth vs Melbourne - your views, please **
Jan 8th 2009, 6:30 pm
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Have to disagree with you Bridie..I lasted 9 months, travelled extensively but had to get away! The thought of spending the next X amount of years holidaying in Kalbarri or Margaret river was too depressing as I knew we wouldn't be able to afford to leave the state at all. Also the scenery doesn't change much unless you go way down south.
Here I like the change that an hours drive brings, or a 3 hours flight and you can be in NZ..I'm just a travel addict I suppose
I and I know I'd have struggled with the feeling of not being able to escape W/A.
I certainly don't feel as though Melbourne is "better" than anywhere else standard of living wise...it just suits us better due to its proximity to other places than the state we live in.
Here I like the change that an hours drive brings, or a 3 hours flight and you can be in NZ..I'm just a travel addict I suppose
I and I know I'd have struggled with the feeling of not being able to escape W/A.I certainly don't feel as though Melbourne is "better" than anywhere else standard of living wise...it just suits us better due to its proximity to other places than the state we live in.
Jan 9th 2009, 1:55 am
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$99 when we went in October..why?
Jan 9th 2009, 5:14 am
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Re: ** Perth vs Melbourne - your views, please **
hhhhhhhhhhhmmmm
Depends what you want
Perth is a small town akin to Southend (just nicer haha)
Melbourne is a big town 3.8 million
Neither are really citities. 1.5 million
Worst thing about Perth IMO is isolated feeling, WA so lots of hillbillies and no decent bands ever want to tour there cos too expensive so local ent scene is pretty clicky and doesnt change much.
Worst thing about Melbourne IMO is people's/media's obession with crap sport like AFL, Swimming and State Cricket... yawn....and melbourne has a bit of an obsession with oneself for being the 'best' instead of just being melbourne so snobbery is higher there..
Otherwise go to Melbourne lots more going on there.....
Oh...IMO
Depends what you want
Perth is a small town akin to Southend (just nicer haha)
Melbourne is a big town 3.8 million
Neither are really citities. 1.5 million
Worst thing about Perth IMO is isolated feeling, WA so lots of hillbillies and no decent bands ever want to tour there cos too expensive so local ent scene is pretty clicky and doesnt change much.
Worst thing about Melbourne IMO is people's/media's obession with crap sport like AFL, Swimming and State Cricket... yawn....and melbourne has a bit of an obsession with oneself for being the 'best' instead of just being melbourne so snobbery is higher there..
Otherwise go to Melbourne lots more going on there.....
Oh...IMO
There are only 3 cities bigger than Melbourne in Europe, if it was ranked in the US it would come in the top 10 (probably top 5)
http://www.citymayors.com/features/euro_cities1.html
But AFL is by far one of the worst sports in history and I can't stand their stupid obsession with it.
Jan 9th 2009, 7:14 am
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Hi, I'm new to the site and would like to add my 2 bobs worth. I did live in Melbourne for a few months when backpacking years ago. I last visited briefly almost 8 years ago. I have been living in Perth for over 18 years now and have 2 young boys. I feel that Perth is fine for young families, but it does have its limitations, as others have said. Perth is very unspoilt, but that is changing, particularly on the wonderful coastline. Plently of open space, but questionable local councils are squashing more and more people in, leading to urban stress. Very little protection for consumers, eg in house building. Great climate, but you get stuck indoors on very hot days, just like you might stay inside in bad weather in UK. Tight, often impenetrable, networks in social, work and political circles. Lazy, disinterested population that tends to sit on its collective backside, rather than stop bad things happening. If you have special needs, eg in education or health, your needs may well not be met, especially outside Perth, but even within the metro area. Low standard of education in state system. Museums, art galleries, school outings for kids extremely limited.
Yes, isolated, in a way that you cannot understand unless you have lived here. Expensive to escape from. We've been well-served by touring rock bands during the boom, but many don't bother coming to Perth. Many different outdoors opportunities available, especially water-based, but if you like walking in the countryside, it's too hot for 8 months of the year. The other 4 months it usually rains heavily, too much for bushwalking. At least 20 years behind everywhere else, but not in a positive way.
If I had to move from Perth, but stay in Australia, Melbourne would be my choice. It would probably to great if you could take up the option of flying into Perth and stay for a month, then travel across to Melbourne, or vice versa, as others suggested, so that you aren't left wondering. Good luck.
Yes, isolated, in a way that you cannot understand unless you have lived here. Expensive to escape from. We've been well-served by touring rock bands during the boom, but many don't bother coming to Perth. Many different outdoors opportunities available, especially water-based, but if you like walking in the countryside, it's too hot for 8 months of the year. The other 4 months it usually rains heavily, too much for bushwalking. At least 20 years behind everywhere else, but not in a positive way.
If I had to move from Perth, but stay in Australia, Melbourne would be my choice. It would probably to great if you could take up the option of flying into Perth and stay for a month, then travel across to Melbourne, or vice versa, as others suggested, so that you aren't left wondering. Good luck.
. Every single point you made we had concerns over after just 3 weeks visiting Perth, hence the reason for asking the opinions of those with more experience living there.
Thanks again and Welcome to the forum
Karen xx
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Jan 9th 2009, 10:14 am
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I was brought up in NZ on a solid diet of Rugby Union and Rugby League, I just can't take to it and neither can any of my mates from Sydney/Newcastle and Brisbane.
Jan 9th 2009, 10:19 am
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Yes, a couple of things.
Melbourne IS a city, of course it it, but it feels like a country town to me, thats all i was saying. I mean, the main CBD is half a dozen streets on a grid, then you have a sprawling suburbia but you go out in the CBD of an evening and its dead, everything happens in the suburbs, which is great, but why to me it doesnt feel like a city per se.
As for AFL, the game itself is full on, and some of the guys run over half a marathon a game, there is no question that it requires a level of fitness and discipline more superior to sunday league Rugby.
But the media hype and crap that surrounds it that get between your ears for 8 months a year is pain, infact it is up there with the british media obessession with the 'credit crunch' and 'recession'
Melbourne IS a city, of course it it, but it feels like a country town to me, thats all i was saying. I mean, the main CBD is half a dozen streets on a grid, then you have a sprawling suburbia but you go out in the CBD of an evening and its dead, everything happens in the suburbs, which is great, but why to me it doesnt feel like a city per se.
As for AFL, the game itself is full on, and some of the guys run over half a marathon a game, there is no question that it requires a level of fitness and discipline more superior to sunday league Rugby.
But the media hype and crap that surrounds it that get between your ears for 8 months a year is pain, infact it is up there with the british media obessession with the 'credit crunch' and 'recession'
Jan 9th 2009, 10:33 am
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Jan 9th 2009, 10:42 am
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Its all happening out this way
Jan 9th 2009, 11:00 am
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yeah look I am not going to debate it about Melbourne CBD being dead of an evening because its just my opinion.
I spent 2 years playing at the Elephant and Wheelbarrow on corner of bourke street on Saturday nights and found that the CBD didnt market itself too well of an evening unless you were 18 or asian.
I much prefer St Kilda, Fitzroy, Port Melbourne....
I spent 2 years playing at the Elephant and Wheelbarrow on corner of bourke street on Saturday nights and found that the CBD didnt market itself too well of an evening unless you were 18 or asian.
I much prefer St Kilda, Fitzroy, Port Melbourne....
Jan 9th 2009, 12:50 pm
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your bias Geelong Gent, because, well you come from Geelong !!!!
The city that was going to erect an AFL sized ball the size of a Zepplin after winning the 2007 Grand Final.......
The city that was going to erect an AFL sized ball the size of a Zepplin after winning the 2007 Grand Final.......
Jan 9th 2009, 12:53 pm
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still grinning