hatfield1

Have just seen that as well.

Redlippie

I know.

Mitzyboy

Err .... why should I be proud, I was commenting on the way she had been treated!

amb

Maybe they're too busy braaing to post on the interweb?

Redlippie

No, most people can't afford the internet at home and don't have access to it at work.

Daxk

Hey Juggernaut"You dont experience Africa on your terms but on hers.""

was that a freudian slip?? lol#

Daxk

amb and Suka suzuki!
No one is saying dont go, It's your life, your kids, your choice.
Do whatever is right for you, please write and tell us
There's a bright guy on here called 6000 who gets peeved every nowand again as he probably gets all the questions from home about wether he and his wife and kid are ok in Cape Town.
Please go, if you're really lucky you can live a looong life without crime affecting you.
If not, it's going to be a major as most of what you think of as crime is just shrugged off as being sissy to talk about it.
I've decided I will be totally positive from now, I'm not my brother's keeper,
amb and suzuki , you have to go to places like top of Northcliff hill to watch the sunrise, have a walk in delta park , hit the night clubs etc
go for it

Redlippie

I haven't been there for years, but watching the sunrise wasn't what people did up there

Daxk

Yep, where do ye think Wits Archeology students found the tag Homo Erectus to go between Homo sabilis and Homo sapiens??
Such a pity, that was such a great spot to end the evening with , sunrise, Grand Mouse aka Moerses Muis and Liquifruit Orange bought at the 24 hour garage in Blackheath (sigh)

hatfield1

Liquifruit Orange (Insert drool here)

whalewatcher

As an ex-expat in SA I do believe a decade there gradually drained my faith in human nature. I had plenty of it when I arrived. Hell, I wouldn't have gone there if I hadn't! But over time the society and culture challenged my ideals.

There are positives, but then things that should be routine in a morally and ethically normal society are hailed as triumphs in SA. My feeling now is that it's not a moral context in which I would want my kids to grow up, nor would I want to be old there in a twenty years' time.

sakazima

To clarify, before I go, I am not a troll - I had a genuine question, I may not have asked it very well. I was born in Scotland and we moved to JHB where I finished my schooling and have been traveling ever since. My question was for advice on moving to Cape Town....anyway, I certainly won't be back to ruin your fun again, carry on with you mud-slinging.....
Incidently I have had a very good offer which I have accepted in Hong Kong so the question is now null and void anyway

Mitzyboy

Well done all!

Pablo

I think that's a bit unfair, Mitzy. I mean, look at the aggressive tone of the initial post in this thread.

"I am fed up of the South Africans I have met over the years who constantly seem to have to justify their leaving by bad mouthing SA, or are they just bitter that the grass was not greener on the other side?
I am also not looking to justify my returning, just want to hear some success stories"

This is just the sort of line that is used all the time by the likes of Homecoming Revolution, where every critic is some sort of failed and embittered expat desperately trying to justify what is presumed to be a miserable life by "bad mouthing" their beloved home.

If the poster had not begun with such an aggressive entry he/she would have got a more open hearing.

Pablo

I second that. It may be a question of ease/difficulty of internet access. It may be that new arrivals are so happy they have better things to do than report back (and if so I don't blame them!). But of those Brits who say they emigrated there recently, those who have written tend to say there are problems that have caused them to reconsider.

I'd add this too. It's not much of a story. But a friend of mine who had been living out of SA for about 5 years recently returned. He is in Jo'burg. I heard yesterday that, at 4am, there was a bang, and he got out of bed to find 2 robbers in the house. He shouted. They ran. No one hurt or killed. So no big deal by Jo'burg standards. He was living in a secure complex with walls and electric fence. The fence, it turned out, was off. Not sure if this was because of the power failures or for some other reason. As Daxk rightly says, this stuff is so commonplace that it is "sissy" to fuss about it. But this friend of mine is now looking at getting out. He realises how close he was to being killed.

For what it's worth, I answer specific questions when posters ask specific questions. When they ask silly stuff like "will I like it" then what can one say?